Old Classic Receivers: A Mistake to Buy?


I was contemplating purchasing a 70's receiver, as I used to love the construction and appearance of the Sansui, Kenwood, Pioneer, Marantz. However, when I ran this by an audio friend, he said, "Forget it."

He says: They sound terrible. The caps & resistors used before the early 90s' were dreadful. The electrolytics are drying up and will start crackling and substantially degrade the sonics. The switches and controls used were almost never sealed, so they deteriorate and make noise and can't be fixed even by taking them apart and cleaning them.

Tuners: He says that nearly all non-digital tuners used varactors, which go out of alignment and cause problems, so no old tuners, with the exception of the Mac MR-78 and possibly a few others, are worth dealing with.

I am tempted to believe all that he is saying is true, but I see a market for these items, and also know that people claim they are still using these pieces for 25 years.

What's the truth here? Can some of the techies enlighten me?
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I just bought an Armstrong receiver from the 80's on ebay. I paid $75 for it, but it cost another $150 to get it shipped here from England. For those who don't know about Armstrong receivers, I used to sell them in a high end shop during the 80's. They are one of the finest receivers ever made. Wonderful analog tuner, incredible amplifier that rivalled the Naim Audio 42/110 separates we sold at the time, and a great phono stage to boot. In a slimline low-profile teak cabinet. They originally sold for about $700. A fine centerpiece for a great sounding system. Would make a super-nice office system with a good pair of mini monitors. Rated at 30 watts with over 3db of dynamic headroom. Something like 70,000uf in power supply filter caps. It seems they are very hard to come by these days, so when I saw it on ebay for cheap, I just had to get it. Even for the $225 I have in it, it is a steal. If you ever see one, I would strongly recommend getting it. I never heard any solid state receiver that could match it.
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It's nice to hear all of you who like old classic stuff. It appears a number of you have had little problem with your older pieces. However, what about the aging, drying capacitor issue? I mean, even Nelson Pass said the electrolytics last for 15 years and that's it. I'm stumped on this one.

I do agree that older solid state pieces are overpriced now. With the probability of component failure, not mentioning that they don't sound as good as newer stuff (sorry guys, I don't think they do for the most part), these pieces should really be bargain priced. I see people getting too much for 25 year old original solid state electronics. These parts are not of the quality or longevity level to last forever. Now, if someone had changed a number of parts inside...that would be a different story.
I like the old Heathkit receivers. Heathkit produced some of the finest of the time. Most are very easy to restore(since they were built from a kit most of the time) and they are all built like tanks. Power wise, they were under rated. You could always depend on more than the spec indicated. I remember using a AR15 receiver to drive a pair of old Acoustic Research AR3A's. It would make those VERY power hungry speakers jump off the floor and fill the room with great sound even into their <4 ohm load. They always had superb tuner sections. Unbelievably low cost for what you got if you were willing to invest a little time in construction. Later, they offered a few assembled models. It was a lot of fun building those things. I still have the AR15 and a few others around. Hard to part with history and your roots!
For a Stereo system they can not be beat!
Luxman 1120 is awesome! $ 250.00
great tuner , meters very powerful!
Tandberg 2075II or 2080 Awesome 200-250
Revox B285 Seperates killer $ 575-850.00
Marantz 2325 I think top of the line Gyrotouch Blue dial
500-600
Marantz 2500 with scope $ 900-1500

All above also include Headphone outputs and Good phono sections too!

My two favorites are the Revox and tandbergs there is a great matching Revox cd player the b225/226