Better Amps For Talon Khorus CAT JL2 or Tenor 75?

With any dead and “inverted” speakers the Tenors will do good job to impress an average “sounds listener”.

Justa.....plausable response.....except.....i spent about an hour in the big Edge room. i heard a few different types of music......i never heard bass texture, micro dynamics or toneality like what i hear from the Tenors......i actually like the Edge amps....one of my favorite ss amps for sure.....ditto for the Lamm 1.1.....but....they just don't play the notes like real music IMHO compared to the Tenor. i'm not a big fan of the Wisdoms......or the prototype speakers with those obscene pyrimids.....but those amps have some limitations in areas that are essential to me.

*** i never heard bass texture…

Are you talking about the farts form the Kharma’ ports? Did you measure/heard what Tenors do against any not reinforced or artificially equalized bass? Ah! Someone get the Kharma’s bass when the VC jumps out the gap as the evidences of “cool bass”? Why don’t not you call to your Tenor designer and to ask him about the Tenor bass? Tenors do have some very specific positive qualities (so far non of the were not named by you) but the Tenors bass (or anything under 500Hz + the lower harmonics of ANY tone) is something that disqualifies this amp from a serious consideration. (Unless one use the speakers that introduces a huge negative masking effect under the bottom that would deceive any low discrimination listener. Welcome to yourself.)

*** micro dynamics…

You still have to explain what it is because you picked a lot of terminology form AA but have very little comprehension what you deal with.

*** or toneality like what i hear from the Tenors

What do you mean: the Tenors have a special tonality? What dose it mean?

Verybigamp- This is hardly the first thread I have read which you posted asinine comments- I happen to be VERY familiar with what the Tenors are capable of and Mikelavigne is describing there sonic signature(yes they do have one) very well. Your less then wonderful word useage doesn't really help your credibility(which in my opinion is nill thus far), perhaps you could share with us what you feel to be a good amp/speaker combo or better yet an amp that you feel would mate up well with the Talon Khorus X, and why....That may help the users of this site far more then your attempts at stirring controversy- trolling isn't very attractive. In other words are you gonna bark all day little doggy or are you gonna bite? this site is dedicated to high end audio and those who are devoted to it and not hersey and/or assumption there of. Good day.

Hey! I think those pyrimids are awesome looking! Anybody with ears can see, I mean anyone with eyes can see they are so modern and cool... :-) I really do think that are a work of art. I think it is easier to agree on what sounds good than what looks beautiful - esp. given the other threads on 'most beautiful...' and 'most ugly...'. Funny how that is.

I can offer up a number of explanations of why the sound in the Edge room did not show off the Signature monoblocks or the Reference monoblocks to their best effect (a number of the Shunyata Anacondas and the Audio Aero Capitole in that room were ours), but I think a more fruitful discussion might revolve around amp/speaker synergys:

It is my belief and experience that amp A will sound better with some speakers than amp B, and visa-versa, amps A and B both being of relative high-quality but different designs.

Now, one might argue that, on a hypothetical speaker presenting an infinitely easy load with a perfectly flat response curve, etc. - that one can rank amps and have one at the top that can be recognized as the very best.

Or, one can argue that on a particular speaker, amps can be ranked as better and best for that particular speaker.

But a single amp that ranks best for all possible speakers? That, my friend, is one helluva amp! :-)

I think you are saying that speakers presenting any kind of a decent impedance curve, like the Kharmas do (and the Talon is supposed to :-) will sound best with the Tenors. You may be right (the Kharmas sure sounded excellent!); I am not intimately familiar with the Tenors (tho I have heard them on pipedreams, churchills, hyperions, antares, talons, midi-grandes - but unfortunately missed them on the vandy 5s - all under show conditions).

Unfortunately some very nice speakers are hard to drive, and so on balance the Accuphase, Edge, Lamm etc. amps will sound better than the Tenor 75s.

The Acapella Campaniles, for example, are on the borderline drivability-wise - we love the Edge Signature monoblocks with them (I am not sure you have heard them in an optimal listening situation such as ours (if you are ever in Boulder, let us know) - they do sound better to our ears than the Tenor/Kharma at CES with respect to the attributes you mention, but I realize that your particular situation is likewise optimized to a high degree), but we will be trying the Lamm ML1.1s tomorrow and we have driven them and got excellent results with a 50 watt push-pull Audio Aero Capitole. You are making me think that if we get bored before we can get our hands on a Tenor 300 that we should try the 75s :-) Couldn't hurt, as they say :-) Uh, Neli...!

-Mike (Audio Federation)