YBA Passion vs YBA integre dt integrated????


I'm considering a new amp to push my JM Lab Micro Utopias. I heard YBA matches very well with JM Lab product. I heard at CES the demo of their new Utopia's was done with the Passion integrated amp. This speaks alot to their confidence in this product. Is it worth the difference in price or is the smaller integrated adequate? How do the YBA integrateds compare to the Plinius 8200 integrated?
sea2
I don't understand your question. Why should I be the deciding factor, for you, to explore other integrateds? Are you, all of a sudden, missing something in your system? I'm confused. That is, if you're talk'n to me? peace, warren
I still own my Passion Integre and loving it! It has been 10 years now of wonderful musical enjoyment! It's a gem that I will never sell.

A few years ago I had an itch to try valve amps. So I listened to a Shindo combo, costing twice as much as the Integre. The Shindos were also a perfect match with my Devore Fidelity Nines speakers, according to many audiophiles. What can I say? The YBA Passion Integre was so much better than the Shindos in so many categories: detail, openness, bass definition, space around instruments, speed, timing...it was a shock! The Shindos had better body, but that was it! With Shindos so highly rated in the audiophile community, I didn't listen to another valve amp. I felt there was no point.

If there is a more musical amp at a sensible price, I wish someone would let me know about it.
I owned the Passion Integre and to my ears, it was not any better than my Ayre integrated (AX-7e) and not nearly as good as my BAT 300x-SE, which had a tubed preamp section. The BAT isn't that much more money than the YBA, but in my system, the BAT sounded much more relaxed, refined, and realistic, possibly due to the tubed front end. At the time I had Tyler Acoustics Linbrooks and later Merlin VSM-MXe speakers.