Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
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Exlibris: sorry to lose you from SACD! personally I love the format though titles....ah well. One thing though on Meitner. Not sure if u have done so but at least in my exp CSDC is whole league above the midofied Philips transport and has real synergy w/ the DCC2. Using the Stealth btwn the two I think is doable but not sure if it would carry the DSD signal directly but also very importantly may lose the ability to slave transport to the DCC2 which I beleive blocks jitter but whatever the case sounds a WHOLE lot better than not doing so. Of course I have no idea who CDSD + DCC2 via optical glass link would compare on redbook CDs to some other combos you are investigating using Stealth as the link...However on its won redbook is very very good in this sort of set up: IMO perfer to dcS but also other redbook only set ups I have auditioned ...the thing I never tried are the Stealth cables which all of you guys luv. Anyway good luck on your search. For transports...I would recommend trying Esoteric and Metronome as well....the level of mechanical engineering appears to be outstanding to me, another notch above most others...
Henry,
Short of actually buying the CDSD, I'm not going to be able able to hear one in my system. I find it hard to commit to the CDSD when the combination of the Accustic Arts Drive 1 and EMM DCC2 is so disappointing in my system. Though the Philips/DCC2 combo was better, there was always a 'ringing' on transients that I believe may be caused by the digital filters in the DCC2. In addition, the midband was recessed and there was less layering in the depth dimension when compared to the 'NoNo' DAC that I have in my sytem right now. It is my suspicion that upsampling and other processing techniques done in the digital domain have an addvers effect on timing cues and phase integrity.

Thanks very much for your input on the various tranports.
I agree with Guidocorona that esoteric X 01 is superb with Shunyata alpha cords. Extermely detailed with texture and dynamics. It was not thin in my system at all. I prefer it to wadia 861 or 1 box DCS player.
Some interesting new digital gear from CES:
Esoteric D-03/P-03 combo(CD/SACD) $25000
Esoteric X-01Limited $13500(old X-01 can be upgraded)
Esoteric UX-01Limited
Esoteric X-03SE
Esoteric UX-03SE
Esoteric SZ-1(CD/SACD)
Esoteric UZ-1(CD/SACD/DVD-A+V)
Mark Levinson No.51(CD/DVD-V,limited edition-150units)$18K
Bel Canto CD1 (CD) $5000

Very interesting thing is that my brother says in his email is stereo digital revival! At least dozen companies showed prototypes of new digital players for introduction later in 2006... It seems that High-end industry is live and well...
Branimir, could you get any more info on the new devices? X-01 Limited and the new P03/D03 combo would be of particular interest.