looking for a warm ss amp....


for my paradigm studio 40s. i hate a bright treblely sound! i currently use signal cables and a denon 3802 reciever. i have had many people tell me to go with bryston or anthem, but both have been out of my price range so far. which of these have a warmer sound? how would rotel or b&K amps sound with my speakers? they seem to cost much less. since i can only buy used, i really do not have the opportunity to audition the different amps. i will continue to use the denon as my pre-amp.
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Mwilson: The earlier B&K amps were noticeably warm and smooth. The later models, which made of four numbers in the model name rather than three, are noticeably brighter sounding. Not near as bright as some others, but brighter than their older models.

As far as Classe' goes, their biggest models are noticeably soft up top. The smaller models are definitely lean and bright to me. I had a Classe' 70 for a bit and was going to let my Dad use it. When i brought it over to his house and hooked it up, he offered to hold the door open for me while i carried it out to the trash. In his system, with a metal dome upper mid and ribbon tweeter, it was "earbleedingly bright" with no warmth at all. Obviously, a lot of this "game" is about matching for best results. I will say that this amp could drive whatever you threw at it. As such, so long as the tonal balance was a match for the rest of your system, you'd be good to go.

Eldragon: I think that the Pass Aleph series do sound relatively warm and smooth IF they are fully warmed up. Then again, your suggestion of the Monarchy's would probably be an even better match for a metal dome. In some respects, i would say that some might even consider the Monarchy's slightly "dark" sounding, but obviously, that is both a judgment call and system specific. The little 70's are good amps, especially the Pro's with their bigger power supplies, but probably not up to driving something like a crossover heavy speaker like a Paradigm. The 100 SE Deluxe should work really well for something like this though. Good call. Sean
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I tried the Monarchy 100SE Deluxes after the CJ, and found the transformers noisy - not just one, but both. CC didn't much care to discuss it when I emailed him. Some reviewers found the same about the amp. Soundwise, they were an absolute dream. Otherwise, I have trouble endorsing Monarchy's build quality. Best SS I've owned for sound. Shortest-lived in my house for quality.
I agree with Ryriken, as McCormacks sound wonderful for the $. Your edgy top is probably the mediocre reciever. Heres a recomendation... At the thousand dollar mark these mono-block amps from CIAudio sound incredibly good and are slightly on the warm side yet very fast, crystal clear with a tremendous bottom end, a sound similar to the DNA.5 deluxe...but better, IMO. It says they are 40 watts each but I recently heard them drive VonS VR-2's very loud with absolute authority and control. Good Luck
Damn Sean, you summed up my impressions on all those amps exaclty they way I remember them. I think the B&K DC coupled (especially the M200's) amps are bit more neutral, if a touch lean or harmonicaly thin. I can't comment on the Monarchy's as I've never heard them, though I have been seriously thinking about those 100 SE mono's. How are the Monarchys with regard to bass and dynamics? How are they with regard to lower impedance loads (4 Ohms)? Mwilson?
Unsound: If you want to run Monarchy's with any type of a low impedance / reactive load, you really should spring for the higher current models. They currently have a more potent hybrid model that has gotten very good reviews.

As to the B&K's, my Brother is running four or their "early version" amps in modified form. I also have a single M200 that i'm letting a friend borrow to run his subs. Quite honestly, this amp sounds thin / slightly anemic to me and not nearly as potent as its' power rating and current potential would lead one to believe. I'm thinking that it is measurably out of bias, but i haven't seen that amp for quite some time now. I hope that it is still working : ) Sean
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