Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
teajay
I just got the new Accustic Arts hybrid tube reference DAC in my system. It is not even burnt-in yet, but right out of the box it is the best combination of type 1 and 2 flavor I have ever heard yet in my system. Just wonderful musicality/liquidity and yet great resolution/extenstion/dynamics. I'll be writing a formal review here on the GON after it totally burns-in in the next couple of weeks.
I know this question is off topic but since I used to post to this thread I know that there are lots of people here that are very knowledgeable about all things digital.

I'd like your help finding a budget CD player. I'm looking for a used, one-box unit, with no upsampling/no oversampling, and a tube output. The price has to be under $1,000 used.
Thanks.
Teajay am I correct that DAC does not have a built in master clock but the transports do. I use a Apogee BigBen reclocker with my 390s CD/Dac. Much improved but still a slightly bit too edgy. I am using a computer hard drive as my transport. Thinking about upgrading the dac but what is the cost? Great Job creating such along thread. Richard
Hi Richard, you are correct the AA Tube Hybrid does not have a built in master clock. The price of the AA Tube Hybrid is $10000.00.
There is some interesting reading on Arthur Salvatore site reagrding Reimyo CDT-777 and DAP777, Ayre CX 5E, AMR 77, Oracle CD 2500 MK II, Accuphase SACD/CD DP77, ARC REF CD 7
and APL Denon 3910 players:

http://www.high-endaudio.com/RECENT.html#Oct

I'm surprised that (amog other things) ARC CD-7 review mentioned "a slight leaning out of the harmonics in the upper midrange accompanied by a slight tendency towards stridency in this range" since this player was described as Flavor 2 in this thread.