Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
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Henryhk, good question. In my system, my Sonos+D5 combo sounds VERY good, nearly as good as when I am listening to the cd via the P5. The main differences I hear is a bit of loss of dynamics, detail, and layering. It should be noted that I encode at VBR 256, MP3. Because of my large music collection, >30K songs, it is impractical for me to encode in a lossless format. That being said, I could happily live with my Sonos-D5 combo, though there is something I like about opening a cd and actually putting something into a cdp. I like the experience of looking at the cd cover and booklet. This was the only way I knew how to enjoy music, until recently when digital music became available. I now know why some people prefer vinyl, aside from the sound of course.
Thanks, Tbooe, Saw u also in the music server thread....I have Sooloos with 2 terabytes so everything in lossless FLAC. Will investigate the D5. Can u apply the various filters via the DAC or is this only when u use a transport, I do gave the DV-60 for home theatre and definitely the filters do make a difference IMO. Upconverting to DSD I guess is a no go though (for the music server that is).
Is the contrast of a compressed digital format with the sound of an uncompressed source on vinyl a meaningful instantiation of the digital vs analog debate?
I audition it and honestly do not know what all fuss is all about. Some reviewers may like it but, appart from clean and powerfull sound it is nothing special. It sound just too 2 dimensional for my taste. In fact I do not like Naim sound at all.

I have to disagree with you. To my ears, CD555 doesn't sound like a typical Naim at all !

Simply put, the $32k Naim CD555 is the best RBCD player I have tried so far. However, the difference between the 555, and Accuphase DP-78 in RBCD mode (which is another excellent player, BTW) although noticable, was not huge by any means. I was expecting to be (literally) blown away, but what I got instead was a bit better bass, better PRAT, slightly wider soundstage with better defined outer edges. Nothing really major.

I have to say though, that the player is VERY complete sounding. With all other players, there were things that I did like and which I could identify almost instantly (Accuphase may be a bit too smooth and safe sounding at times, EMM has problems with bass and PRAT), things that in a long term may eventually lead to the lack musical satisfaction. The 555 was different. It doesn't have the obvius "flaws" or sonic traits. It is just ... complete.

Having said that, I have problems with persuading myself that the player is actually worth that much of money. The price premium over the Accuphase DP-78 (which costs ~ 1/3 of 555) is hard to justify, unless you are you have money to burn or are looking for the best of the best, irrespective of cost.

It is also worth mentioning, that I have not have a chance to try some of the very best players discussed in this thread (Esoteric and AA stuff), so my comments are based on my expirience with EMM Labs DCC2 se / CDSD se and Accuphase DP-78.
I asume that you audition Naim 555 with single ended connection and Accuphase DP-78 via balanced connection(BTW, ARC use PIN2+ and Accuphase PIN3+). Just to tell you DP-78 is not even in top ten digital playback systems that I audition, same thing about Naim 555 despite its price tag.

Accustic Arts combo is a must for you to audition as well as Esoteric X-01 D2.