Mikelavigne: I do not necessarily agree that a direct comparison has to been done. I do not believe that the systems need to be in the same room at the same time for a conclusion to be made. This is not to say that the room is not extremely critical. However, if everything else is constant, it should be easy to tell the differences.
I have had the Kharma Exquisite 1a Extended Reference Enigma, Midi Exquisite 1a Diamond Enigma, Midi Grand Ceramique Enigma, 3.2 Ceramique Enigma Reference Monitor and have listened to them with the same exact equipment and cabling as I have with the VR9SE's and I have no doubt that the Von Schweikert VR9SE's complete a package that the Kharma's do not. As far as the VR9SE's disappearing like the Kharma's, they do. They also, in my opinion, have a larger soundstage front to back, left to right and have much greater resolution, control and depth in the bass. As far as midrange, I find that there is a more natural midrange in the VR9SE's, but the Kharma certainly is no slouch in this area. Prior to hearing the Von Schweikert's, I had not heard better than the Kharma's other than a prototype speaker a local company is building. Another area where the VR9SE's better the Kharma is in the highs. Even compared with the diamond tweeter, the VR9SE's tweeter/super tweeter offer greater realism with more air on top.
Certainly Hooper and Mes share my experience and have had both Kharma and Von Schweikert speakers in the same room with the same equipment.
I have to say that I re-read this thread and do not see where anyone tried to "break down the Kharma into pieces". I believe everyone here acknowledges how special the Kharma line of speakers are. I just think that the few people who have had both prefer the Von Schweikert's. They really do most of the same things, but where the Kharma stops, the Von Schweikert goes further.
I have had the Kharma Exquisite 1a Extended Reference Enigma, Midi Exquisite 1a Diamond Enigma, Midi Grand Ceramique Enigma, 3.2 Ceramique Enigma Reference Monitor and have listened to them with the same exact equipment and cabling as I have with the VR9SE's and I have no doubt that the Von Schweikert VR9SE's complete a package that the Kharma's do not. As far as the VR9SE's disappearing like the Kharma's, they do. They also, in my opinion, have a larger soundstage front to back, left to right and have much greater resolution, control and depth in the bass. As far as midrange, I find that there is a more natural midrange in the VR9SE's, but the Kharma certainly is no slouch in this area. Prior to hearing the Von Schweikert's, I had not heard better than the Kharma's other than a prototype speaker a local company is building. Another area where the VR9SE's better the Kharma is in the highs. Even compared with the diamond tweeter, the VR9SE's tweeter/super tweeter offer greater realism with more air on top.
Certainly Hooper and Mes share my experience and have had both Kharma and Von Schweikert speakers in the same room with the same equipment.
I have to say that I re-read this thread and do not see where anyone tried to "break down the Kharma into pieces". I believe everyone here acknowledges how special the Kharma line of speakers are. I just think that the few people who have had both prefer the Von Schweikert's. They really do most of the same things, but where the Kharma stops, the Von Schweikert goes further.