Preamp or Amp?


I started a thread that has gotten no responses so I've started another one. Hopefully this is much more direct. I have a simaudio intergrated amp. Would I hear a difference moving up from an i-3 to a higher i-5 or Classe' 151 OR would I be best to move my budget up slightly and begin the trek down the seperates road.

Does the Preamp effect the overall presentation of a system more then the amp? I will be using Polk Audio LSi15 speakers. At what level of separates will I hear a significant improvement in sound quality? I've been doing some light reading, and have read up on some preamps the Copland 305, some CJ units...regardless of what I buy down the road, it will be used. Can a Jeff Rowland concentra or SimAudio i5 really keep up with most separates? I've been told by a few people they can. I'm not sure if it matters but the source is a John Wright modiffed Museatex DAC/transport combo.

I like the idea of simple one box solutions, not to mention the money saved on wiring. But a few people on this forum have told me if I like the sonic signiture of the LSi speakers, perhaps maybe it's time to look at getting a dedicated amp/pre-amp for further improvements, if thats the case which should I get first, the amp or preamp?
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The reason you probably didn't get much response is that its tough to do short of writing a book. So much depends on something very personal to you...What do you really want to get out of your system and how good are your listening skills. By way of example.....

I've have a good system, good listening skills, and reasonable expectations and am quite satisfied with the components I use, all seperates, because of the flexibility it allows me, as well as the quality of their sound and the synergy they create. I recently purchased an inexpensive, medium powered tube integrated, thats sort of idiot proof but can easily be voiced by tube rolling, and when I'm not listening very carefully I don't know what I'm missing, and for a more casual listener I quite confident they might actually prefer this little integrated.

You have mentioned the "sonic signature" of the Polks. For those of us who haven't owned them, or listened to them extensively in our own rooms, what exactly is their "sonic signature". When you can answer that question without describing your electronics or the room you are hearing the speakers in or their set up, or conversely describing all of those things exactly, we have a starting point.

Perhaps you could re-think your question and rephrase it so that specific answers are possible. Folks here usually chomp at the bit to give advise............
The LSi's are very detailed yet also very warm. SMOOTH is the best word I could use to describe them. Much much smoother then the B&W's, Totems and Paradigm's I've heard. Higher frequency's simply seem to float through the air.
I've owned and/or demo'ed 6 or 7 SS amps and 7 or 8 SS and tube preamps in the last 4 years.

My experience is that for the most part, preamps with a decent or better reputation are for more similar than they are different. Aside from a couple that were simply way too subdued regarding detail and resolution.

My experience is also that for the most part, amplifiers of a decent or better reputation are much less similar in characteristics. In addition, there appear to be far greater compromises with amps. For example, one amp may have an almost sweet presentation with excellent transient speed, yet severely lacking in the lower bass regions where the bass was ill-defined and compressed (it was a Sim Audio product). Or another amp that had pretty good bass definition (still far from the best) but was out to lunch in the upper frequencies.

To find an amp that does it all is rare, but they do exist.

Therefore, I'd focus on the amp first and foremost. Over the preamp and every other component, speaker, cable, or room.

If you intend to stay in your current budget, I'd highly recommend researching a used McCormack DNA 0.5 or the DNA 0.5 revision A amplifiers and perhaps a used Pass Labs X 2.5 preamp.

To the best of my knowledge, there are very few amps that can even begin to approach the sonics of this little amp.

But there are also a few very good integrated amps. For example, supposedly the Audio Refinement Complete is quite inexpensive and very first rate.

-IMO