845 or 211 based tube amps?

I have owned both types of amps- I found the 845 more powerful and the 211 slightly more refined- if I had to choose, probably the 211 in the long term...

The 845M is smooth! Smoother than the 845B. IMO the treble is not forward, or irritating as you seemed concerned about. But the 845M is no longer in production unless Supertnt.com has started back up with a new version.

Thanks guys.

Budrew, according to TNT website, they are available. Do you lose base control with the 845M comparing to the 845B?

211 can be successfully driven to much higher power in class A2 mode, too

The Kondo Ongaku used the 211 tube with great success.