Norah Jones on Bluenote??


Is nothing sacred?.......What's next......Courtney Love at Carnegie Hall?......Pavarotti Sings The Monkees Songbook?.....
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Mghcanuck,
The link is very simple:
To compare with Britney's repertoire Norah's one is "too expencive". To compare with the rest of Blue Note repertoire seems to be "too cheap". To compare with compeeting during Gramys Bruce Springsteen, well, it's very close + or - imho.

The cheap in terms of investment to create a song or music, investment in terms of level of sophistication towards the vocal perception peak or capabilities. In most cases the cheap investment creates the largest profit as all of the commercial music had prooven. Some exeption is Freddy Mercury.

You're contraversing yourself saying that she's on developmental stage. Certainly there's no doubt that she will become better and better and will probably lean towards serious sophistication that will finally suit the Blue Note repertoire...

I've no jazz-musician brother, but cruising arround NY jazz and music clubs large or small along with large performing arts centers I'm sure I can distinguish vocal qualities. To me she's still just a nice girl who's part of commercial promotion of jazz.

If jazz(or any kind of real music) will be promoted to the commercial levels, I may positively agree that it will be much harder for cheap pop artists dive onto the waves of the show biz.
Marakanetz-seems like you are having a pop at Springsteen now too.

With all due respect you have to realise that personal response,interpretation or opinion without some kind of basis is pointless.
I've seen this a few times recently,it's like turning up here and saying X component is crap,it's worthless and yet people do it with music and aren't taken to task for it,the way they would with equipment analysis.

If you want to debate on the quality and worth of Springsteen's music,let's do it-I can explain in great detail why he is one of last centuries most important artists on a number of levels.

You are entitled to your love of more etheral music but part of being broad minded and being open to music is to consider all possibilities,even what you deem superficial.
It is impossible to like all music but I strive to understand why some things are successful,of course we are bound to dismiss some music as pap.
I'm not a particularly big fan of Norah Jones but I understand her popularity and recognise she has talent.
You have made a distinction between artists you have seen in Jazz clubs and Ms Jones.
Have you seen her live?
If not you are not comparing like with like.
Have you heard these small bands records?
If not you are not comparing like with like.

Your analysis between investiment and pop music is also widely awry,do not understimate the time effort and money spent making the pop hits,it is a skill in itself,it may not feature in your value system but you need to realise the number of pop artists that fail.
It's clearly an area you ignore therefore you are reduced to broad sweeps of uniformed criticism.

Finally nobody I know takes music more seriously than me,I have very strong opinions on music but it is not reasonable for any individual to define and state what is "real" music.
Some brilliant musician of the future may indeed be inspired (intially)by Norah or indeed Britney.

Having your own value system is crucial but keep it in perspective,you have to realise that the number of people who view music as art is vastly out numbered by those who consider it entertainment.
Any real study of music will also reveal that the lines dividing music as art or entertainment are blurred and largely self-determined.
It can be either or both.

By all means have strong opinions but some of your sweeping generalisations above indicate your value system has started to close your mind.
the new album has been in circulation for a few days at least. If you liked her first album, you'll probably like this one as well. Nothing ground breaking, but it will sell a ton of copies and flush Blue Note's warchest for other endeavors. Anything to put $ in smaller boutique sub labels or independants is a good thing IMO.
"Who sais she's a singer?

What a silly statement. Snobbery at its best. Norah is not my favorite female vocalist by far, (gimmie Eva Cassidy any day) but to question her singing ability is....just silly. Blanket statements like that make any other arguments you may have pointless, you lost your audience with your bias.
Once more into the fray...

Did I contradict myself? Um, I don't think so, but I suppose it could be construed that I did... I guess what I didn't specifically state is that I think she did a pretty good job on her first album and that, with time, she may continue to evolve and improve upon already considerable, if not impressive, talents.

Who's to say??? Wait and see. In the meantime, enjoy what you will. YMMV. Etc.