Anyone know WMA?


Anyone know anything about WMA format? I've been looking for a lossless compression scheme that supports tagging--does it do that? Is there a way to take WAV files ripped using EAC and convert them to WMA? What kind of compression ratio can you get?

(I'm thinking of switching from my current mp3/audiotron scheme for remote music to the Roku.)
edesilva
Edelsiva,

I am just really impressed with all this information. First of all, I hope you feel better from your cold. In NY, temperature is just crazy. We are over 50 degrees these days. What an odd winter.

I "think" I understand what you are saying. But I feel I have to put it in place. For now, I only used two players (Windows Media Player and Meedio). None of them recognized the tags from EAC. Well, they did, they recognized the track name, artist and all in each file, but they didn't input the file in their libraries so searching would be easier. The truth is that I didn't set up EAC as you explained it. I will try these coming days.

Again, thanks for the info! I am really really impressed.

Josep
One last question, do PCs read ALAC format? I am not sure I will end up using the tagging scripts you mentioned and maybe in the future I go Mac. (Still deciding...)
Hmm... I'm suddenly wondering... Did you fire up Meedio/WMP and then "open" a song in your collection to play or double click on the song file itself and have that launch Meedio or WMP?

For most players, and this applies to both foobar and iTunes as well, you need to use some form of "add to library." For example, in iTunes I can tell it to search for new songs in a specified directory and it will run through that directory--and all subdirectories--looking for songs not already in the library. When it finds such a song, it will read the tag data, and add the song to its own library file. Then, I never need to do that again to access the song--it will automatically show up in the library when I open iTunes the next time...

I have used my ALAC files in a PC environment and in a Mac environment--they are stored on a network server and I've access those files from both a Mac Mini and several Windows XP computers. The question is usually whether the software player you are running is compatible with the format--slimserver (used in conjunction with Squeezebox devices) will understand ALAC files and play them. However, my old Turtle Beach audiotron network players (basically, dedicated player software in a network box) would not play ALAC files. There is a plug in for foobar that will allow foobar to play ALAC files, but I gather it is a bit flakey.
this is great! thanks! I have tried what you told me. And eventhough WMP or Meedio recognize the file name (with album artist in it) and add it to My Libraries, they do not add it to the internal library of the program (the one that lets you search for Album/Artist, etc.)

Now, I am curious what should I do. Whether using ALAC or FLAC. (I am about to rip my entire collection and I don't know what to do.) Eventually I might use an iPod but it's somewhat unlikely that I move to Mac. (Used PC all my life and I am very familiar with it).

How can I rip to ALAC using EAC?

thanks, Josep
Hmmm... What do your song files look like? When I rip, I specify for EAC the following format: %A\%C\%N-%T

(This examples presumes ripping to wav files)... That gives me a structure where, for example, I have:

C:\..\My Music\Cash, Johnny\American Recordings\01-Delia's Gone.wav
C:\..\My Music\Cash, Johnny\American Recordings\02-Let The Train Blow The Whistle.wav

If you set up EAC with the format %A-%C-%T, you would end up with, instead:

C:\..\My Music\Cash, Johnny-American Recordings-Delia's Gone.wav
C:\..\My Music\Cash, Johnny-American Recordings-Let The Train Blow The Whistle.wav

If I "play" the first set in foobar, it would come up with the song titles (it assumes filename = song title) identified as:

01-Delia's Gone.wav
02-Let The Train Blow The Whistle.wav

But, in the second instance, it would come up with:

Cash, Johnny-American Recordings-Delia's Gone.wav
Cash, Johnny-American Recordings-Let The Train Blow The Whistle.wav

In neither case would the "Artist" or "Album" field be filled in, since WAV files don't have tags... Is the second set of files what you are seeing? I.e., no tags but artist/album?

I think I mentioned "masstagger" for foobar. If you have your files the way I do, you can select files in the library, and tell masstagger to fill in the Artist and Album fields. In the latter case, you can also tell foobar to retag from the filename itself... If you are interested, masstagger comes with the foobar installation, and I'd direct you to:

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12302

Don't be intimidated--look for "Guess values from filename" or something like that. Its pretty easy, although I'd do some test files before running 15000 wav files.

My alternative is ripping to ALAC and using iTunes. I start EAC and set the options for compression to iTunesEncode:

http://www.rarewares.org/files/aac/iTunesEncode46.zip

iTunesEncode is set up to create AAC files, but its pretty easy to change from AAC encoding to ALAC encoding--see the sixth message down here:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=1358221��

Because iTunesEncode actually interfaces directly with iTunes, the net result is the ripped files are automatically written into the library and the tags are automatically passed from EAC. So, if you can use CDDB to get the Artist/Album data in EAC, it will show up in iTunes...

Hope this helps...