sistrum vs neuance


Anyone tried both products? What differences did you hear. A similar thread degenerated in to arguements and name calling. Please, could we talk about the sonics and leave the physics and egos out? I don't want to fight about isolation, energy transfer, etc. but I would love to hear your listening experiences with both products. Thanks
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Sutts being an avid supporter for years of Audiopoints and later Sistrum and now a dealer of both,I would recommend that you not use a shelf of wood or one that decouples..At this point because of the architecture of the Sistrum rack I would use a similar material to that of the actual shelf,.that material would be leaded steel.The actual makeup..I do not know the formula..ask Robert. I can tell you from experience that in the the design of a new end pin for cello and bass the use of dissimilar materials totally created havoc with the sonic signature and speed of the instrument. Most of these pins use 5 different materials. So to keep the sound consistent and coherent and whole I would place a leaded steel shelf on top of the upward facing points of the Sistrum shelf.On top of the new shelf but under your mono amps I would use correctly sized Audiopoints choosen to match the mass of the chassis above..Tom
Thanks Tom- thats' an idea. Sounds like it would just be easier to get a big single-chassis stereo tube amp, and just put it directly on the points...
Sutts the best way to use your mono amps is to have mono platforms..An Sp-1 for each separate chassis would insure that they are totally mono thru out, except for that one common ground plane ..Earth...I have experienced the change in my personal set up..Better imaging and focus..Tom
Hi Sutts,

You'd probably be needing a Neuance C or D platform for this application, depending on the total combined weight of your monoblocs.
Neuance C measures approx 1-7/8" in height,whilst Neuance D is approx 2" tall. Either model constructed to a size of 22" x 19"/20" would be US$195 plus shipping to your address.
Neuance is perfectly suitable with your present Sistrum rack, provided that you have enuf vertical space between tiers to accomodate the height of your amps & platform and that the combined weight of the monos doesn't exceed approx 85-90 pounds.
However,if you're generally satisfied with the Sistrum's character of presentation, I feel that you would be best served by first obtaining a pair of Sistrum or other high quality ampstands as the tweakster suggested.
Altho it isn't an absolute necessity, the optimum *ideal* installation will almost always have each component sited on its own resonance control device.
Then you may later choose to incorporate Neuance platforms into your system, as needed, for additional performance benefits, backed by GreaterRanges' no-quibble satisfaction guarantee policy.

Best,

Ken Lyon
GreaterRanges/Neuance
Thanks Tom & Ken for very informative responses. Yes Tom, I DO happen to have an extra pair of SP-004's waiting in the wings, that the monoblocks (Dehavilland GM-70's) would fit on, it's just that I had originally thought of putting them on the same SP-6 shelf as the components (no room to put beside on their own stands).

However, the latest development (as of last night) is that the better half has 'vetoed' the monoblocks. First child due in ~ a month, and she does NOT want ANY exposed tubes at ground level. I guess I can understand that. Now, if there were only a world-class tube amp that was totally covered by a cage...