ebay vs audiogon


I have bought equipment on both audiogon and ebay this past year and would say that I am definitely more comfortable with the former vs the latter. Twice recently equipment was misrepresented on ebay. On the first one paypal helped me recover my money. On the second it wasn't worth going crazy on (some scuffing on the top of a DVD player), but still left me hesitant to buy there again.

Hat's off to the audiogoner's for greater trustworthiness and honor.
quicke
No matter where you trade it takes some common sense to trade happily. Hobbyists can be identified easily on either site.

Audiogon has auctions but most of the good things I see have reserves. To me, reserve spells non-serious seller. Guessing games just don't do it for me. That leaves the other listings which are basically variable buy-it-nows, assuming you're willing to endure the cascade of email necessary to set price, payment terms, shipping method and cost. Experienced Ebay sellers list all the details up front. This frees the buyer to do the one thing expected of him -- pay.

Ebay works better for me, mostly because nowadays I'll only bid on things where the guesswork has already been eliminated. Once an Ebay seller double burned me on a digital cable. It was supposed to be mint and no shipping cost was specified. The seller took $15 shipping, spent $2.50 to send it in a crumpled shirt box that arrived wet in the rain AND sent me a cable with a loose connector. Did she know the XLR was filled with hardened hot glue? I'll never know, but I learned my lesson.

Here's my Audiogon story: once I listed a nice $850 power amp on Audiogon and got the usual gang of lowballers, tirekickers and others seeking a general education on the brand and power amps in general; basically lots of interest but no genuine commitment of any kind. I renewed my ad for another 30 days, dropped the price $50, even emailed the most interested parties. The amp still didn't sell. Over to Ebay it went with an opening bid of $9.99 and no reserve. Seven days later I shipped the amp to a USA buyer at $300 MORE than my Audiogon listing. Go figure.

Another difference: lots of Audiogon listers persist in offering Paypal at the buyer's expense. These cats ignore the covenant each voluntarily made with Paypal. No matter how you feel about the fees themselves, these sellers' lack of scruples erodes my confidence in their deals. Ebay has weeded out most of the non-compliers, but one still pops up here and there.

To close on a positive note, my last major purchase was on Audiogon. I saw the listing early, rushed to answer it, we worked the deal on the phone, wrangled a little and everybody was happy.
I agree with Rockvirgo on his point regarding the seller charging the paypal fees (3%). He is right as rain. I contacted paypal one time myself by phone & they specifically said it is illegal for a seller to charge the paypal fees in their ad & said if you see it, it can be reported to them. I never knew that before.
if you get caught on ebay asking the buyer to pay the paypal fee your auction will be canceled instantly.

i can see not wanting to eat the 3% fee on multi thousand dollar deals but cmom its getting down right silly when a seller asks for 3% on a $500 item & it reek's of pure greed to me.

mike.
Speaking of paypal fees; how many times do you see an item for a hundred or so that also have obo--paypal add 3%.????
So I guess I should add 3% to the listing price and say Paypal is free. This is quite common. I know many sellers who claim Paypal is free, but will give a discount for a MO. What's the difference? I guess it's safer to do business this way. No chance that Paypal will catch you if you advertise free Paypal and give discounts for cash.

The reason Ebay enforces free Paypal, is because Ebay owns Paypal.