Fuses that matter.

Wow, Tbg. That was quite a volatile reaction. I suggest you take a cooling off period before you read my reply.

Here was my initial comment…

I'm not saying that fuse direction can't have audible effects. I'm just saying that, for me, it did not. That could be because...

1. My ears aren't good enough.
2. My system isn't good enough.
3. My amp is not sensitive to fuse direction.
4. Nothing is sensitive to fuse direction.

About which is true, I don't really have an opinion.

And here was your reply…

Bryoncunningham, does it matter which is true? I think not. To each his own. None of this discussion matters much to me. I am merely stating my experiences.

When you say “…does it matter which is true? I think not…” you seem to be saying that the question of whether fuse direction can have audible effects doesn't matter. To say something “doesn’t matter” is to imply that there are things that DO matter, but this isn’t one of them. Which is why I wrote…

Does it matter? It matters if you're interested in the question of whether fuse direction has audible effects. It doesn't matter in the way that unemployment matters, or climate change matters, or global poverty matters.

How that “grossly misrepresents” you is a mystery. Maybe you can identify exactly how it grossly misrepresents you, and you will have my apology. Until then, I will assume that it fairly represents you, and that you didn’t like what you saw. What I saw what a person who was trying to end a conversation because it led to the expression of views different from his own. That happens all the time around here. In fact, you and I have had a total of three conversations on A’gon and it has happened in two of them. The first time, you said this…

I think the entire discussion is largely irrelevant as people will buy what they like and can afford.

“The entire discussion is largely irrelevant” sounds a lot like “None of this discussion matters much to me.” They both sound like a person who is trying to end a conversation. Perhaps you will think I am again grossly misrepresenting what you said. I think your comments speak for themselves. Moving on…

Does the fruitiness of the wine matter; does the fuel economy of various cars matter to you; etc.

If this is intended to be a clarification of your position about what matters and what doesn’t, I can tell you that it clarifies nothing. I don’t even see what the two things you mentioned – wine and fuel economy – have in common. From there your post gets increasingly bizarre…

Obviously, you don't think others' experiences with fuses matters. I value others' experiences…

Let me get this straight. It’s ME who doesn’t think other people’s experiences with fuses matter. Where did you get that from? Was it from my comment that...

… I tend to take audiophiles' listening impressions at face value, unless I have a good reason not to. Sometimes I have a good reason. But most of the time, I recognize that he was there in the room and I wasn't, so why not give him the benefit of the doubt that he heard what he heard.

I said that in this very thread, along with a number of other comments that reveal that I do in fact value others' experiences. The idea that my comments suggest otherwise is preposterous, as anyone who has read this thread will plainly see. Also, your characterization of me reminds me of something... a phrase... Oh yes, it “grossly misrepresents” me.

And now we go from the bizarre to the surreal. Your comment that...

I value others' experiences, but mainly I post to share my experiences…

Let’s leave aside for the moment that this statement is a self-contradiction. Instead, I will ask you, does a person who values others' experiences, as you claim to, write this...

None of this discussion matters much to me.

Does a person who values others' experiences write this...

…what I find useless is your posts and those posting meaningless comments.

That condemnation of other people's posts appears just three sentences after your claim that you value others’ experiences. That is an impressive level of cognitive dissonance. And now for the coup de grace…

I knew full-well that the cockroaches would come out of the walls when I posted my initial comment.

Them’s fightin’ words. Would you be so kind as to identify the cockroaches on this thread? You of course intend me to be among them. But the other cockroaches would probably like to know how you feel about them. Especially in light of the fact that you value their experiences.

Bryon

>>but mainly I post to share my experiences….......<<

How egocentric to think anybody cares.

Audiofeil, That's uncalled for. This is an audio forum, where sharing experiences is the primary objective and desire. I notice you have a pronounced tendency not to participate in meaningful discussions, choosing instead to fire off your usual snarky, sophomoric comments.

Poor cockroaches. Not sure if they noticed which direction the fuse was pointing either, but I (not a cockroach) have noticed a slight smearing when a fuse has been used one way then flipped around. I have noticed a similar sound when using a speaker cable the "wrong way" around too.

I think this difference in sound with the direction of a fuse depends on a few things:-

1 the equipment fuse used in. I haven't noticed fuse direction issues in DACs or transports. But i believe i have in preamps & tube amps.

2 the system. How transparent etc?

3 how well you know the system/gear being used?

4 whether you are experience in listening for such small changes in presentation/tone, which is obviously linked to point 3.

Personally I think a fuse can be a nice tweak, and an important one for those of us audiophools.

Bryoncunningham, sorry I am not going to post further on this aspect of fuses. If you want to further discuss your experiences or where you had success, I am interested.

Chadeffect, my first experience with fuses and their direction was when Lloyd Walker of Walker Audio concerning his power supply for his turntable. He said that I might want to reverse it and see if I heard a difference which was better. Lloyd is very sincere, so I took him seriously and tried it. He was right. I did frequently check this on components thereafter. Like you some showed little difference and others a great difference. Mainly, I just tried the fuse both ways and chose the best. But some times I learned which side of the fuse was the wall plug side. Later when I got the IsoClean fuses there was an arrow to indicate this direction. This was also when I first experienced shall I call them "designer" fuses.