Approaching Nirvana? Where is My Achilles Heel?


Thanks for taking a look at such a long post, but I am excited to report that I may be breaking through to a new level of audio nirvana.

For the first time in many many years -- I am getting interested in sitting down and listening to MUSIC, revisiting old CDs etc, because I am no longer distracted by obvious, irritating weaknesses in the system.

This has been primarily due to the installation of MYE stands to my Tympanis (posted other thread) and tweaking the placement of my speakers.

But this has been sufficiently dramatic that it is motivating me to put the rest of the system under a microscope.

So here is a challenge to all of the supreme gurus on Audiogon, give me your best diagnosis please of the final frontier to upgrade my system.

If any of you are passionate about any of the following areas, I would greatly appreciate your advice or ideas or comments on the entire system:

MAGNEPLANAR TYMPANI PLACEMENT

I have spent many hours experimenting with placement and have settled into the following:

room is about 21 x 25 with 12 ' ceilings, very solid, and quite reflective with a concrete slab, hardwood floors and lots of glass but sounds surprisingly good

mid/tweeter panels are now about 6' from rear wall and 6' from side walls, 8-9 ' apart and toed in slightly at about 15 degrees.

(I had them further out in the room from both rear and side walls, but that seemed to make them sound thin. Now bass, is better and images are focused in space between speakers)

There is NOT a lot of image depth, however, nor images floating beyond the edges of the speakers.

The 2 detached bass panels are now almost straight, with the outermost panel almost TOUCHING the side walls. The inner (middle of 3) bass panels are now carefully positioned in alignment with the inside, tweeter mid panels again with slight toe in of about 15 degrees.

This seems to have DRAMATICALLY improved the bass from my previous folded V shape, and is curiously contrary to the factory's advice that you can "pretty much put the bass panels anywhere"

CABLES

Vintage Monster M-1 and M-1000, circa 1989 (Bruce Brisson of MIT designed?) inexpensive banana plugs, and Home Depot 10 gauge yellow wire with black stripe

I confess I am so stubborn and skeptical about megabuck voodoo cables that I have been THINKING about upgrading them since about 1994.

Perhaps worse, I recently ran out of length on my original cables and patched in some 10 gauge Home Depot extension cables which are now running from my amp to the Magneplanar crossovers boxes which are themselves connected to the panels with BASIC Monster Cable.

Now I still dont want to spend thousands on cables, but if anyone can suggest a modestly priced but sure fire improvement, that would be great.

I did some listening to some $$$ (although used) Madrigal interconnects and compared to the old Monster cables they sounded TERRIBLE -- cloudy, nasally, closed in - as if the system was suddenly out of phase.

FRONT END SONY SCD-1

This player is stock and I think is pretty good for the price I paid ($1800). Would consider the upgrades or adding a tube DAC perhaps.

PRE AMP ARC SP-11 MK II

Have a new set of tubes from Audio Research which I have not yet installed.

Have used present tubes off and on for about 3-4 years, sometimes not using the system for weeks at a time, and at other times leaving it on 24/7 for a few weeks. Would you think they are overdue for replacement? What would this do to the sound?

POWER AMP -- LEVINSON 23.5

Bought this on the highest recommendation from the Maggie factory for Tympani IVa's.

It seems to deliver sufficient, perhaps even ample, but not extraordinary power to the Tympanis. A bit on the dark side, perhaps, but in general a pretty good, liquid sounding amp. Have thought about actively biamping with ARC crossover, Bryson 7Bs and/or tubes on top, but previous threads were inconclusive on benefits of that upgrade.

POWER CONDITIONING

None. Never have used it or even a surge supressor on audio, video or computers for years and years and years and never had a problem.

(Nor have I ever had a virus or a hacker on my computer.)

If anyone has any thoughts at all here on how I might get more image depth, image beyond boundaries of panels or a tubier, more analoguey, musical sound (other than by adding more tubes and a turntable?!, I would greatly appreciate any ideas, feedback or suggestions.

Successful suggestions will receive invitation for drinks or dinner and audition in NYC area!

Thanks and best wishes.
cwlondon
Apparently, the Ultimate Power Cell (UPC 200), which lists for about $499, is an evolution of the Ultimate Outlet current conditioners. It has 4 high-grade AC outlets and contains two independent "Power Cells". Each power cell has two AC outlets. You can use them independently to provide isolation from one Power Cell to the other, or flip the bottom panel switch into the High-Current mode to strap the two Power-Cells together (each cell supports 15amps of current). It has PS's new svelte modern styling and it works very well with large, high-current amplifiers...
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I'm thinking that Paul McGowan wanted his amplifier to perform as good as possible for my upcoming review. He could have sent me either device yet he chose to send the UPC 200.

I fail to see any advantage of using the Ultimate Outlets over the UPC-200s in the application which you've described, other than their slightly lower price tag. The High-Current mode should support 30amps of current and the extra outlets provide flexibility in configuration and use.

Using two UPC 200's, one could be set to the high-current mode for the power amplifier(s), then the other one could be used on your other dedicated line for your source components providing isolation between your digital and analogue components (each having two outlets in the normal mode).

Plus the baluns are newer versions and other improvements have been incorporated in the UPC 200. But perhaps I'm missing something.
Besides the cables upgrades mentioned above. Audio Asylum has a tweakers/diy & plannar asylum.

Your speaker placement & acoustic materials are probably to blame as well as speaker stands for Magnapan's. you can diy or have someone else make them.

some sites

http://www.geocities.com/jonrisch/index2.htm

http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=tweaks&n=10965&highlight=jon+risch+magnapan&session=

http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=mug&n=78407&highlight=Magnepan+placement&r=&session=

enjoy dave