Do Dealers think it is sinful..........

John_l: Gary at Audio Gallery is THE BIGGEST jerk I have ever met. He is a complete loser with no idea of what it means to appreciate a customer that walks in the door. In this "high end" audio business, there are so few of us to begin with, that to continually treat potential customers with the lack of respect as Gary does, is a disservice to the consumer and the manufacturer. I would rather listen to Bose than to give my business to Audio Gallery

On the other hand, the "used store" you mentioned, is probably Echo Hifi. They are terrific people with a true understanding of the business. Not only are they passionate about audio, they also treat their customers as friends. They will always have a loyal customer base.

Cornfedboy: I think you are incorrect of your assessment of "discounting". I believe it is illegal to "price fix". It is done to force the consumer to deal with the local dealer regardless of how the dealer treats the consumer. Many manufacturers will also pull their product from a dealer if they sell outside of their territory. This too is illegal. If you can cite case law, I am willing to listen.

Zel0t@nsc.edu: My point exactly... MSRP stands for Manufacturer's SUGGESTED Retail Price. It certainly is not illegal to use MSRP, but to force a dealer to charge that amount and not allow them to discount is illegal.

jtinn: you are wrong. see my post of 12/17 on this thread. your view is widely believed but is akin to an "urban myth." i have had to dispell this myth many times in my public and private practice roles.

I don't understand why you think Kendall43 is lying. I don't live in New York but in the western part of the U.S.A. I have been able to find virtually any new high end audio product in which I've expressed an interest offered for 25% off retail. I do know that one of the retailers with whom I deal most often has a lot of customers on the East Coast. Perhaps I now understand why this is so.

Enough with the talking and show me the discount. Those who have cited they were able to receive discounts please list names of your sales man/woman and the store which offered it to you. I am possitive these dealers won't mind since it's more potential business for them, especially, since they are earning less margin (from the price breaks)and they can make it up in the volume they'll potentially be getting from us. Let me be the first. Josh as San Francisco Stereos (Mountain View Location) will be able to get you 6% across the board just like what he did for me. I know it's not much, but it's not bad considering how all the other hi end dealers around here have us by the balls with their "MSRP" bullshit. Cheers