ARC VSi60 vs PrimaLuna Integrated Amps

This thread is old and it compares the old Primaluna model. The new one I'm looking at now. I bought an Ayon from a dealer here on audiogon and he told me on the phone he sells Primaluna and they break. I thought "that's not what everybody else says" but he is very convincing. I took the bait and the Ayon is OK but now I'm learning a few things.

This "Dealer" never sold Primaluna and flat out lied to me when he said he sold it. I don't have a dealer near me but there is a guy that bought a new model, the Dialogue Premium. A guy has one near me and I saw it and heard it at his house. He had an VSI75 and before that had a big VAC that was expensive and he says the Primaluna is the best he's ever had. He pointed out how low the noise is from the amp during quiet passages. It's another world.

I might get the HP but don't know if I need that as the $3400 one had a ton of power. Does anybody know if the HP is that much better?

If I were considering the Primaluna then I would give Kevin at Upscale a call. He can be a teeny bit of a "hard sell" sometimes but he really knows his stuff and he will treat you right. I bought a component from him once that got damaged in shipment and he took it back and replaced it for me to my satisfaction. You can call them up anytime and they will help you with any questions about your equipment purchased. No relation to Upscale other than a satisfied customer.

I have a " factory upgraded" Jolida power amp that is extremely quiet and utterly reliable over the last 3 plus years...less cash than Deal's Primaluna deals, although I have dealt with Deal and got a fair deal of some tubes I'm dealing with.

Six!! Yes 6, count em, 6 times the root word of "deal" appears in your post. That was planned, right? :)

I had a Primaluna Prologue II for nine years without so much
as a hiccup . I recently traded it in for a Primaluna Dialogue Premium . Kevin makes some great 'sales'. Extremely happy !