Anyone familiar with the Manger driver?

I have been playing the manger drivers in a pair of Medea's, they need time to break in, took over a ytwo years, and theyy also need fast amps, as well as powerful one's, they are reasonably efficient, but seem to really thrive on power.

The Audio Physic Medea speakers were at the heart of the single most awesome moment I've ever had in the high-end hobby.
I was privileged to hear them at Immedia in Berkeley some seven years ago. They were utterly compelling, "hors classe" in a way that I've never heard a cone-driver speaker (or horn, or planar, etc.) even approximate.
The system backing the speakers, ohhh let me think - monoblock amps by SiriuS, the company that is now GamuT. The preamp was a Connoisseur Definitions v2, and LPs were spun on an Immedia "Revolution" turntable, of which too few were made. I was on the list for one such before I experienced a cash-flow discontinuity....
Wonderful speakers. Beyond my means then and now. But they are ranked among the very few products, audio or otherwise, that I wish I'd made the extra effort to know better.
Much like that girl who I really should have kissed when I was seventeen.

More wine, waiter!

cheers apo

Hi all,

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For I bring some bad news for all fans of cone, dome, ribbon, panel (all things pistonic) and of course the evil passive crossover!

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As pretenders to the throne we must earn or shot at the title and we hope that the last 6 years of R&D and the fruits of our labour (again please see Overkillaudio website) will prove that we are indeed serious contenders. I do hope we will be allowed to organise some demonstrations and properly controlled independent audio shootouts in America. The first of the European shootouts will begin in the early spring 2008. For the lucky few music lovers who can afford $30 to $60K there is now a solution to all the audio reproduction problems.
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I thank you all for your time in advance of your replies (Gulp!) and as the great Winston Churchill once said " Whilst I totally disagree with you 100% I will defend until my dying breath your right to disagree with me"
Long live democracy!

Yours Sincerely

Derek Wilson
Overkill Audio

Derek,

I think they nuked the other recent thread. I expect you intended to post the information on this thread instead.
In any case I read about the Manger driver and am curious how it controls dispersion. To me it behaves like a ring radiator and therefore it will have a very narrow and extremely bumpy off axis dispersion pattern - at least without a phase plug...why no phase plug?

Hi Shadorne,

Good question! There is actally a Manger phase plug, they call it a "hollow profile" and you can read about it on the Manger site. I have tried it and I dont like it. It's a big flat piece of clear plastic that covers half(!) of the driver. Basically the Manger produces too much signal if that makes any sense. The way the bending wave generates sound means that it produces two of everything and in theory covering half the driver improves imaging.
But its ugly and my Prey units dispersion pattern is almost perfect.
The bottom line is with my Prey head units you have a superb but narrow "perfect" sweet spot and everywhere else in the room gets a very natural but not pin sharp , musical sound.
I hope this helps!

Cheers

Derek.