Martin logan vs. B&W


Anyone has experience with both brands or done some A/Bs? (especially B&W 800s and larger logans- ascent or higher)

what are the main differences and + and -s
what made you choose one over the other?
what kind of music did you use to compare them?

thanks for your input
Jay
jungsan
You are comparing apples to oranges. The Logans are a hybrid planar and the B&W are cones.

What are your musical preferences? This would help.

If you like "slam" in vocals and instruments, the B&W's would be the obvious choice. If you are a detail freak the Logans will be more your style.

Best,

Paul :-)
Paul,
my music preference is 90% classical; the remianing 10% consists of Jazz and contemporaries

thanks
Jay
Well Stravinsky's the Firebird would sound better on the B & W's, a Beethoven piano concerto would sound much better on the Martin Logan's. That said, I really have trouble with hybrid speakers in general. The sound differences between the very, very fine panels of the ML and it's cone woofer always sound mismatched to me. The only hybrids that I have heard that really seem to get this right are the Innersounds. Otherwise, I really think that planar speakers such as Soundlabs, Quads and Magnepan's are light years ahead of the hybrids.

As far as traditional speakers, I really, really like the B & W's. The build quality is spectacular, and the sonics have a great consistant tonality. Very musical. I agree with Beemer in that they are very different. If you like a warmer, detailed sound, full orchestra, B & W's are great. If you tend towards more intimate music, I would suggest the planars or hybrid. Before you buy the ML's I would suggest that you audition the Quads, Soundlabs, and Magnepan's. At the very least listen to the very fine Innersound speakers, if you really want a hybrid.

Good luck.
Both posters above said it all. One other thing to consider is that B&W require a lot of power and it should be solid state. Martin Logans love tube power, although solid state will sound very good. B&Ws will be easier to set up in the room & will play louder. Martin Logans will require more work to set up due to the dipole design and will arc when played very loud. I always felt if I had the room & money I would love to have a second setup w. planar or electrostatic speakers. Now go listen as that will truly answer your questions. PS once you can hear the crossover / transition on the Martin Logan between the woofer & the panel you will always hear it. I used to own them & sold them for that reason. I hear the new designs are much better. Listen to each for a while will really do the trick