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Why do some audiophiles beat up McIntosh?

I've been around audio my entire life. I'm 45 and I bought a decent Technics system when I was 12 with my paper route money. Genesis speakers built in New England which were actually pretty darned good. I would spin vinyl every single day to the point it drive my parents crazy. My buddies father had a McIntosh system that I was in love with and he was allowed to play it. It was haunting for me to hear his fathers system.

Fast forward 28 years later and I'm perplexed at the hatred I see posted online about McIntosh. Is it really that bad or is everyone upset that McIntosh is so successful? It doesn't make sense to me that the resale value is the best in the business yet audiophiles bash them. I personally have always loved their gear and sound. I don't own any, and probably never will. Still, I just don't get it. I've always admired McIntosh. Looks aside, I always enjoyed the music. Can someone tell me that they're junk or do you just not like the presentation?
donjr
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paladin
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IMHO - McIntosh is merely a highly recognized brand due to branding & not sound - Same as Rolex is in watches.
People recognize a Rolex - but certainly not in the top ten of watchmaking.
I have been into audio for more than 50 years & have never had a single piece of Mac equipment in any of my systems.
As a watch dealer - I do on occasion deal with Rolex as you have to give the people what they want.
I honestly believe that both McIntosh & Rolex are overpriced for what you are getting, but they both hold their value on the pre-owned market.
csontos
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Oh, McIntosh this, McIntosh that,...meh. Now Harleys, that's a different question.

BTW, they are not underperformers. They do exactly what they're supposed to do.
markpao
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Nothing against McIntosh here. Had a MD7007 CD player that sounded pretty darn good, and I have an MR 78 tuner that sounds exceptional.

Harley's underperform? I think not. What are you comparing them to, crotch rockets? I don't think Harley owners give a hoot about going any faster. Had a '92 Low Rider, more fun going 40 mph on that bike then any of my crotch rockets I had at 80 mph
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roxy54
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"I have been into audio for more than 50 years & have never had a single piece of Mac equipment in any of my systems."

Paladin,
Since you admit that you have never owned a piece, how would you be qualified to make a blanket judgement on their equipment?
I sell Rolex every day, as well as Audemars Piguet and Breguet. As far as exclusivity and design value is concerned, the latter two beat Rolex hands down, but in the end, they all tell time, and as we also know, a Seiko quartz is more accurate than any of them.
csontos
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To expound on the matter, I was once told by a jeweler that there are only two manufacturers of digital quartz movements. You can pay 800.00 if you choose, or you can pay 2.00. Either way you get the same movement. SOTA tech is just that, no less.

However, Rolex has it's place and it is in fact on top with the best. Just take a look at any movement. You don't have to be an expert to tell. They're beautiful.

I've owned an MX113 tuner/pre in good shape and was not impressed though.
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