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Why do some audiophiles beat up McIntosh?

I've been around audio my entire life. I'm 45 and I bought a decent Technics system when I was 12 with my paper route money. Genesis speakers built in New England which were actually pretty darned good. I would spin vinyl every single day to the point it drive my parents crazy. My buddies father had a McIntosh system that I was in love with and he was allowed to play it. It was haunting for me to hear his fathers system.

Fast forward 28 years later and I'm perplexed at the hatred I see posted online about McIntosh. Is it really that bad or is everyone upset that McIntosh is so successful? It doesn't make sense to me that the resale value is the best in the business yet audiophiles bash them. I personally have always loved their gear and sound. I don't own any, and probably never will. Still, I just don't get it. I've always admired McIntosh. Looks aside, I always enjoyed the music. Can someone tell me that they're junk or do you just not like the presentation?
donjr
tbg
5,263 posts
 
I think that would always apply, but yes, you are right.
pops
2,275 posts
 
09-06-13: Tbg

"They make the sound perhaps musical and listenable but not involving and real"

Disagree IMO, mine amps certainly do. Maybe for you it's more about listening to your components instead of getting involved in the music, just a guess. Easy for that to happen.
tbg
5,263 posts
 
Pops, I don't want to get involved in another music versus equipment discussion. I hear what I hear, and you do also.
dividebytube
50 posts
 
My introduction to high-end audio was through McIntosh. I had a friend who - in the late 80s - owned most of the 60s stuff - The MC60, MC240, MC30s, the C22, etc. Those units have a special place in my memory since I got my first taste of the audio obsession through those pieces + a pair of Quad ESL-63s.

Fast forward a zillion years, and my love for them has waned. I've heard better since - even in the world of vintage tube amplifiers. Macs have a house sound that many people love, but I find them a tad grainy. For an eye-catching second system, they would be my first choice, but not for my main rig.
alycat
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The, (useless), blue VU meters are a BIG reason people buy Mc and one of the main reasons I don't like Mc. It's just smoke and mirrors, kitsch, gimmick....whatever you want to call it. They have definitely fallen into the Harley syndrome. Overpriced and under performing. That's cool if someone wants to buy it. To each his own. But they make themselves a target for attack when they won't stop insisting they are the best. They invite criticism.
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