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Macrojack: As for waiting to see what else Zu will make in the future, why? Are you going to walk until you are convinced that Ford or Toyota or whoever has finalized the automobile.

I can only explain how I feel, each person must decide for himself.

Your analogy would be on the mark if somebody was listening to a clock radio, and waiting for Zu or whoever to come with a perfect speaker. However, most of us already have a speaker that we love, that we found after much search. We know we will upgrade someday and are always looking at potential candidates but it is not like we don't have good or even great speakers.

To come to your analogy, I already have a Camry or Lexus or BMW or whatever each of us can afford. Prius is impressive new technology but I think it will mostly be a sideways move for me and anyway I hear Toyota and others are about to come out with new hybrid models. So I decide to wait and enjoy my present car a little more.

I don't know if this makes sense to others, but that is how I feel.

2bigears - I don't think there's a bad choice here. Of course you know where my vote falls, but I haven't heard the other. Owners of those would probably endorse theirs to the exclusion of all others too.

Have any Def. owners returned theirs because they weren't happy with them? Well, I had the Druids and traded them for the Def's. I really liked the Druids but suddenly had cash to burn. Then I traded the Def's for Def. Pros. Was I unhappy with the standard model? No, but I was looking for the last 5% of low bass which the standard Def's did not do in my room. They were flat to 30 hz in my biggish room, and dropped quickly from there. I haven't heard any other Def. owners complaining at all about bass and I suspect my highly perforated room is unusually hungry in the low frequencies.

Most people would be very happy with this, but my musical diet includes hip hop and electronica which contain significant energy below 30 hz. Unwilling to trade the strengths of the Def's for a whole, new direction the Pro upgrade was natural.

Zu's approach with the Pro's is to let the main drivers run to their natural rolloff at around 40 hz. This figure is actually around 50 hz in my room. So, I'm using the TacT 2.2XP to cross over between 50 hz and 65 hz, depending on material.

Going this route is a little more intensive, as the sub drivers in the Pro's are actually pro models with significantly more output potential, though their inherent response is uneven. Unequalized, they run to 1 khz, so EQ and XO for the subs are mandatory.

Why the longwinded story? To share the primary weakness I personally had with the stock Definitions. Again, most listeners wouldn't have this problem. But if you're like me, going straight to the Pro's, even with the start-up baggage, would be worthwhile.

The upside is that the system I've got going (shameless plug) can do anything, given sufficient space. Girl-with-guitar is portrayed with tearjerking beauty, Snoop Dogg will shake the entire house, Miles Davis will be brought back to life, Drum Planet will blow your freakin' mind, and 2 watts via 45 SET amplification is PLENTY to do any of this at any sane volume. No kidding.

This rig is without any meaningful limitation. If you don't need the last 5% of bass extension, the standard Def's will do the same.

I haven't returned my Definitions nor do I plan to. I will probably go to the Pro version down the road. Great speaker; very musically satifying.

Just received Zu Definition Pro speakers a couple of days ago. They got the standard factory burn-in but I am sure they are not broken in fully as yet. Performance fresh out of the box is unprecedented. I thought my Druids represented an extreme in resolution but these are very clearly better. Zu has rewritten the book with this product.