Best Sonus Faber for 16 sq room. ?


Hi

If money was of no importans what would you buy for a 16 sq well treated room?

Remember i have a amp that have digital eq so some magic can be done.

I know that most will say Guarneri Memento

But the thing is i have had the Gamut l3 speakers beforee ,and even if the do project wonderfull imagedes the just dont sound as dynamic as a floorstander
for all kinds of music i ended up not liking them much.

I know i have asked alot of qustians about sonus faber speakers but its just because im very very confused on wich one to get .

But this qustian is what it all comes down to.

Pleas spare with me

regards
tda2200
Hi branimir

If i where to chose the memento i would sit 3.5 meters from them .

Regarding the Krells i dont beleive the would be a stepup from the gamut l3`s.
For one the are using the same scanspeak drivers.
Also the are build by Lars goller witch is the former head ingeneer at scanspeak and is the brian beheind scanspeak drivers ,and besdes that the sound seriously good.
bettter then the cremona auditor for sure.

But still the dont provide that full range musical vindue.

My room has a complete seeling treatment and a Thick wall to wall carpet and wall treatment behind my listning position.
The gamuts are to small for my room simpel as that the dont go deep enourgh.

Actually i had a long talk with the Nordic Sonus faber distrubiator witch has set up Alot of stradivariĀ“s and amatis annis and also has alot of personal experinces with the both the old and the new amati.

He said that the amati anni will not be a problem for my room .
He told me that the amati anniversario is xtremly well balanced and the are the easyest of the homage speakers to setup and also quit room friendly.

He also pointed out that the anniversario actually where more room frindly then the old homage because the midrange driver in the old homage could be to much in your face if the speakers wher not placed correct .

What he pointed out was that the floor would be the biggest problem ,
also as you point out a minimun of 3 meters to the drivers is needed
But if i placed them fare out in the corners and toed in i would have plenty of room on the sides of the speakers and a listning distance of 3.4 meters to the bas drivers of the amati.
And when I pointed out that i had ATB room correction in my amp he said go for it for sure.

Because when i had the Lyngdorf Roomperfect system the best spot to place the speaker wher in the corners and toe then in so the cross right before my head .
This way the base only travels from the corners and here i can controll them via the the roomcorrection in my amp.

My old system consisted of tactaudio w210 corner subs and the gamut l3 all driven by to lyngdorf tda2200+ amps and a cd-1 player

The big corner subs consists of 2 *10 inch drivers in each of the to corner woffers and are placed in the corners.
And the produse some serious bass sounds .
At least as powerfull as the stradivari
since the are very efficent and driven by a currents trong fully digital amp.
but via the advanced eq is was abel to get a perfect well balanced sound with plenty of deep base in that room.
Just use the atb to locate where the bass overpowers the room and its fixed.
The roomtretment will do the rest.

But as i have experinted before no body really know how its going to sound until the are in my room.

regards
Well... I do not agree at all with you regarding Krell LAT-2000. Did you audition them personally? No? Ok, then just to point out few things they sound amazing on London show 2006.

Anniversario's in room small as yours? Your SF distributor said they fit nicelly in 16m2 room? Another Ok form me...
I use them in 35m2 room BTW and this speakers are not perfectly neutral IMHO.

You plan to use Anniversario's in room corners and toe them in to cross in front of you? Sorry, they are not designed to be setup that way... Remember, I own them as well as my audio pal here on Agon(Kops) and we both agreed that Anniversario's are moderately demanding in setup.
You also plan to you TDA2200 to drive Anniversario's?
I am REALLY sceptic about results that you will get with that amp in your room...
Room correction unit with Anniversario's?

Do not get me wrong, but I find your setup plan very,very strange indeed.

Any way,
Good luck!
I use the older version of the Guarneri in my very small room, which is 11X10 with a vault ceiling. IMHO, the original G is a superior speaker to the M's. It certainly was in my room.
Your mileage might differ.
Hi branimir

I respect your view about my oppinions.

Regarding the lat-2000 no i have never heard them.

My amp is a aberdeencomponents moddified tact millenium mk4/mk3.
The tda2200 is not good enourgh for speakers like amati anniversario.
The moded millenium is a intirely diffrent story
best i have ever heard.


here in denmark the country wher Dynaudio scanspeak seas vifa and Audio technologies are from the gamut l3 is regarded the best there is for a two way speaker.

The krells im sure the are amazing .

I do know that it normaly will a very bad idea haveing the annis in a place as mine.

But every thing is very system depending .

For starters my amp sounds nothing like a krell amp.

Its completly neutral and if you pare it with small 2 way speakers if will sounds xtremly smooth but booring because it dossent have that larger then life bass output.

The millenium loves fullrange speakers but it never overpowers the bass.
Its also very powerfull it has over 110 peak current.
Heard it with B&W 801 d and it hold them with iron grib.

Im not a huge fan of roomcorrection but the EQ in my amp dos a marvelos job controling the bass in a system.

As i see it its the annis or another smaller fullrange speaker thats maybe a littel smaller.

regards
Here is the mail i got from the disbutiator

I will of course also answer in English, even though I have a feeling
that I could understand you even if you spoke in Danish.

Well well. Here goes.

I have had many opportunities to demo and install both the older
version
of Amati and the new Anniversario. Maybe a bit surprising, I feel that
these are two quite different speakers. The first time I set up the
Anniversarios, I was very surprised by the fact that they started to
sound good even before I had done the final positioning of the
speakers.
And from brand new too!

The original versions are much more picky about placement. If you do
not
do it right, the midrange will overpower the presentation, creating an
uncomfortable feeling of too prominent voices and an upfront
presentation in general. This is not the case with the Anniversario.

After two more installations with the Amati Anniversario, my initial
impressions were just reinforced. When I met Giovanni and Cezare at the
London Show, I brought that fact up. I even had a nickname for the
Anniversario - I called it the "plug-and-play speaker" from Sonus
Faber.

They laughed, but explained to me that they had laid down hard work
with
the Anniversario to make the midrange integrate better with the rest of
the spectrum, and to make the speaker as linear and phase correct over
the entire frequency spectrum as they possibly could. This work also
resulted in higher overall efficiency, a more tolerant amplifier load,
and much improved dynamics compared to its predecessor. To show this
off
at the London show, they used a simple PrimaLuna ProLogue 2 amplifier
to
drive them. This system pleased more than 50 spectators at a time. I
was
quite impressed.

The specific pair that Jan Ostrom is willing to sell to you has been
installed by me personally at his very nice HiFi shop in Umea, Northern
Sweden. It is a very lively-looking pair, with especially nice wood
veneer, so I remember that Jan felt lucky over the looks of the
speaker.

I feel that you have the necessary environment and experience to get
spectacular results from this speaker. 16 square meters may not seem
much, but since you have two room treatment options (one manual and one
digital option), your main concern should be to find a listening
position that puts you on the correct distance from the speakers. You
do
not want to sit too close to any multi driver speaker. Even though the
main drivers (tweeter and midrange) are very close on the Amati
Anniversario, I would recommend that you place yourself on a distance
at
least 2 meters from the speakers, preferably a little more, for best
results.

So my advice is clearly to go for it. If you can afford it, it will
definitely enrichen your life. Your amplifier is more than adequate to
drive these beauties.
Jan is a good and trustworthy guy too. You will have no problems with
him.

Please get back to me if you have any further questions.