What is the order of rel subs?

Here's my two eurocents:
I owned the Stadium 3 and 'listened' often to the Stentor 3. After moving to a bigger house, I decided to go and look for a Studio, merely based on the specs and reviews but expecting comparable results in larger listening areas. This would complement my Avalon Eidolons.

Now that the B series is here, I am confused (or rather: concerned) about the positioning of these models on the hi end market. This is why:

The 'old' models seem to go and be replaced with new models such as the B3, B2 and 'flagship' B1 which are considerably lower priced. I would assume that also REL is continuously looking for product improvement.

The lower priced new models would suggest that either the older models are hugely overpriced or that REL is leaving the hi end niche. The positioning that Luvwine points out supports this. I share this concern with 9RW.I do hope however the REL brand will continue their present top position (IMHO).

Apart from this, in general it is my conception that downfiring models should be better able to 'spread' sound and equally fill the room with sound waves. Frontfiring models are easier to 'locate' when enjoying 2 channel audio (and, I presume, HT audio). I am still not sure about this, but after reading many reviews I suspect that many reviewers find front firing models a 'better' choice for home theater than for hi end 2 channel audio. Did REL introduce the B series to convince us otherwise?

Please comment on this.
If true, I will definitely go for a Studio in stead of a B1

Greetings from Amsterdam, Holland

Here's my two pennies:
I owned the Stadium 3 and 'listened' often to the Stentor 3. After moving to a bigger house, I decided to go and look for a Studio, merely based on the specs and reviews but expecting comparable results in larger listening areas. This would complement my Avalon Eidolons.

Now that the B series is here, I am confused (or better: worried) about the positioning of these models on the hi end market. This is why:

The 'old' models seem to be replaced with new models such as the B3, B2 and 'flagship' B1 which are considerably lower priced. I would assume that also REL is continuously looking for product improvement.

The lower proced models would suggest that either the older models are hugely overpriced or that REL is leaving the hi end niche. The positioning that Luvwine points out supports this. I do hope that I am misunderstanding something here and that the REL brand will continue their present top position (IMHO).

Apart from this, in general it is my conception that downfiring models should be better able to 'spread' sound and equally fill the room with sound waves. Frontfiring models are easier to 'locate' when enjoying 2 channel audio (and, I presume, HT audio). I am still not sure about this, but after reading many reviews I suspect that many reviewers find front firing models a 'better' choice for home theater than for hi end 2 channel audio. Did REL introduce the B series to convince us otherwise?

If true, I will definitely go for a Studio in stead of a B1

Please comment on this.

Greetings from Amsterdam, Holland

Hi Piet,

I will not be able to shed much light, I am afraid. Given the high quality of your main speakers, and if cost is not a major factor, I would suspect that the venerable Studio III would likely be superior to the newfangled B1 in your application. I have no facts to justify this opinion, but given that Sumiko still offers the Studio III, and given its much higher price tag and lower extension, I cannot imagine that it would be inferior to the B1.

Having said that, I remain pleased with my B1 and it fit my budget better than a Stentor or Studio. I am not sure that downward firing is "better" than forward firing woofers nor do I believe that home theater woofers are always forward firing. Look at the fairly inexpensive, but hugely powerful SVS line of subs made to shake rooms in HT. They have downward firing woofers and are ported to the side. "Directionality" or the ability to locate where the sound is coming from is, I believe, related more to the pitch than whether the woofer is forward or downward firing. I set my B1 on two channel music to only engage around 38 hz. At that pitch, it is not "directional" to me. Also, some claim that forward firing woofers are easier to "dial in" location wise than downward firing.

Lastly, I would like to point out that the company that bought Rel is Sumiko. Sumiko is the U.S. Importer for Vienna Acoustics and Sonus Faber. They sell very high end gear. Seems like Rel is in pretty good hands. I would be very surprised if they did not want to sell subs that complemented high end speakers like the SF Amati Homage and others they sell. Also, they were pretty responsive when I called. You might do the same and see what they tell you. At least you will be talking to them directly and may be able to get some useful information/insight. I was trying to decide whether to buy a Stadium II or III or get the new B series. I did not ask many questions relevant to your higher class inquiry. :)

Hi Luvwine,

Sorry to be so late responding to your reaction.

Thanks for your explanation. Here in The Netherlands, we do not know Sumiko, but as an audiophile i do know Vienna Acoustics which i like very much.

For some reason, I still suspect the Studio is overpriced, although I do agree that this is THE subwoofer to mate many high end speakers. I shall further investigate this one and wil lget back to you through this thread with findings on my part.

Happy listening enjouyment,
Piet

Hi Luvwine,

Sorry to be so late responding to your reaction.

Thanks for your explanation. Here in The Netherlands, we do not know Sumiko, but as an audiophile i do know Vienna Acoustics which i like very much.

For some reason, I still suspect the Studio is overpriced, although I do agree that this is THE subwoofer to mate many high end speakers. I shall further investigate this one and wil lget back to you through this thread with findings on my part.

Happy listening enjouyment,
Piet