New Von Schweikert VR SR4 mk11 Cream or Crap ???

Ozzy,
Did you have to drill holes in the bottom of your speakers for the outriggers?

Does anyone have any pics of the VR-4SR MK2 in Ebony? There aren't very many pics of this finish anywhere. The sample pic looks like they are brown and black striped. If you have any pics, send them to me at davids39@bigplanet.com. Ozzy, do your speakers sound good at lower volumes?

Spenceroo, the outriggers mounted into the same holes that the spikes go into. They look great !.
My floor (cement) was uneven and all speakers would rock where I placed them. With these outriggers the babies are level and solid. Great product.
I have 302 hours on the speakers. Low volumes they sound great.
I cant wait until I can start turning down the rear speakers, I think with my room, full on is too much.

I just got done moving the speakers around in my room and I find that now the rear speakers full on sounds better. Also, after 300 hours of music playing thru them they are developing a very large soundstage.

I now have my speakers 36" measured from the side of the speakers to the side wall. The back of the speakers are 30" from the back wall, making the front of the speakers about 59" from the back wall.
Do I need to bring these out into the room even more? Should they go closer to the side walls?

After reading Douglas excellent review, he had them placed 40" out into the room and 30" from the side walls.
To place mine at those positions would require big time room and equipment re-arrangement.

But, I would like to place them in the optimun location.
With the weight of these speakers and the outriggers 2" high spikes moving them is a challange.

Please share your placement info.

My room is 18' x 25' with a 8 foot ceiling. I have 8 foot 16" tube traps in the corners.