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Need advice for full range speaker with bottom end

Hi,

My current set up is Innersound Eros MKI with
Antique Sound Lab 1006 845 amp and cary slp98 pre. Altogether a pretty satisfying setup for beautify mids and highs.

I do notice and miss the bottom end on some music. So I'm interested in setting up a second system with some of the other parts I've already have lying around. I have a pair of Nuforce 8's and a Benchmark Dac. Given the Benchmark has volume control, I figure I can skip the preamp and go with just adding a pair of speakers. I will source this system with my computer and the Squeezbox 3 to the DAC.

I'm hoping to find a pair of full range speaker that can give me what I'm missing and still resemble some of the mids and highs I get out of my innersound panels.

My hope is to keep things sane within the $2-4K range...hopefully closer to 2k than 4K. I plan to be buying use to keep cost down.

Anyone know of some good bargins for full range speakers that can hit close to 20hz?

Gerald

geraldedison
geraldedison OP
36 posts
 
Wow, loss some sleep doing the research from the advice given today...some really good recommendations have been given.

Base on these few hours of analysis, the VMP, VR4 jr and the Gallo 3.1 all seem very impressive for the price and they all compete in the same ball park.

It seems bi-amping is the way to go with all these speakers. Given I current drive my highs and mids with my 25w SET amp and the bass with a pair of nuforce ref 8's. Will this amp combo be adequate for any of these speakers?

Amp question aside, has any one heard more than one of these speakers and can comment on how they fair against each other?

Very tough choice...

Gerald
chadnliz
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I own VMPS so take my thoughts with grain of salt but I think both VMPS and Von Schweikert are in a whole other league then the Gallo, dont get me wrong it is a great speaker but I feel both the "V" choices to be superior.
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deecee
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As far as deep and accurate goes, if VMPS still produces like they used to (and they probably do given the reports I have seen), they will definitely go rock bottom as far as bass is concerned - I used to own a pair of the original "smaller" tower speakers.

I measured in room 3db downpoint as 27Hz. The cool part of the speakers was that you could somewhat modify the 3db downpoint vs. response smoothness by loading the woofer with clay to match your room.

I bought them several years back and to this day I still remember the smooth ease of response in the bass...

Good luck in your search!

- DeeCee
geraldedison OP
36 posts
 
Chadnliz,

Do you feel my combo of 25W SET amp and Nuforce ref 8 would be up to the task to drive a VMP speaker? I see a pair of VM40 on Audiogon today. Don't know if you think that would be a worthy model to try. It weights 200lbs each and that's somewhat intimidating (how will I ever lug that up to my second floor music room?!)

Do you use tube amp to drive your VMP speaker? You listening to the VM30 model, is there significant difference with a VM40?

Gerald
chadnliz
3,736 posts
 
I would call Brian at VMPS, he answers the phone most of the time, I own the FF3 SRE wich was a special edition, it has a 48in midrange panel but the RM40 has a better midrange now then I have so they should be better, I power mine with 400 watts from both amps and I dont want to speculate and stear you wrong.
By the way my speakers way over 300lbs each but on a 2 wheel "dolly" they are a breeze to moove, and they are tall and pretty narrow, moving them a bit here and there is alot easier then you think...1 guy in good shape can do it easily, atleast mine you can.......and yours weigh over 100lbs less.
Over at Audioasylum there is an entire VMPS club you can ask questions and dig for much more info then will usually be found in these parts. My gut tells me you can use what you have but will the tubes give you loud levels, that is what I dont know.
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