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A musical subwoofer

Well a buddy of mine asked me about a musical subwoofer to mate with his Dynaudio mini monitors.I said he wanted an accurate subwoofer.He agreed.I then discribed what my idea of what an accurate subwoofer for music was......

We are now embarking on building it and trying to sell it here.It will not withstand the rigor of HT.My thought was to build a stereo pair that will accent his mini monitors for jazz,classical and back ground music.

I want to find the accoustic rolloff of his mains and try to give him an octave or so below it.

The goal is to provide that octave without drawing his attention to where it is coming from.He is a cabinet maker and will be building the cabinet and grills and i'll design the sub and attempt blend it in with his Dynaudio's.

I'll be purchasing a pair of maggies to test also.This is a tall order and you guys still entrenched in two channel audio are a tough group to prove that a sub can be added to a system and remain undetected.

Beta testers in the upstate NY area are welcomed.I should have a prototype by september.

KG
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schipo
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Rel Strata III what else. It is built well, looks good , and works with almost any speaker.
mechans
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I am having a sub built for bass augmentation and extension, of Merlin TSMs. The sub has to avoid "bone crushing" bass, which we termed sound effects style subwoofers. It must be a relatively quick driver with attack and decay that is in the music. It should integrate with the bass the monitors are producing which translates into crossing fairly high up, in sub terms anyway. It won't be done for a couple of weeks.
sogood51
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Mechans

"The sub has to avoid "bone crushing" bass, which we termed sound effects style subwoofers"

Ah, your building one of those "Mid-bass Modules"...I saw one at the Hsu Research site the other day. Those aren't really subs...ie, true subwoofers reach down to 20hz, and below!

"Mid-bass Modules" got their start with computer speaker systems, although they incorrectly called them subwoofers...something HSU does not do.

Dave
kgveteran OP
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I'm in the Rochester NY area.Panel guys are what I want to find.

I found that music is the biggest critic in my system.I'm tired of trying to get the music right.So,I'm building a subwoofer system that will do it right (music, that is).This isn't easy.Rel has done a good job of it.Vandersteen 2W is a killer music sub.I want a subwoofer because I really love mini monitors and panels.

Thanx for all the input (excuse the pun).

I'm trying to put together a system to base music on and Spica TC-50's and a Musical Fidelity B-1 integrated amp would be nice.Transport and D/A to follow.I'll probably get a CD player at first (suggestions).

I currently use in my HT (4)Adire Audio Tumults in 3 cubed sealed enclosure, powered by bridged mono QSC 1450's each.I augment the rolloff of the sealed Tumults with a Marchand BASSIS.This system is flat down to 8hz and bone crushing doesn't even come close to it's ability.To get this system to do music bass takes me a while.It's not perfect, but it will do.I want a system that has good extension with articulate bass (sans the bone crush).I'm not sure i know what a plane crash sounds like or a ride through space ice (Titan AE), but it is fun.
kgveteran OP
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04-19-07: Audiokinesis
Well KG - you have company! I haven't posted any Audiogon subwoofer ads yet, but not long ago sent out my subwoofer system to be beta-tested by some planar owners.

I take it you've looked over what's available in the subwoofer market and concluded that the ubiquitous deepest-loudest-possible-bass-in-smallest-possible-box paradigm leaves something to be desired, and there just might be a niche for a design emphasizing quality over quantity (at least, that was my thinking). So anyway let me tip my virtual hat to you on taking the leap of faith necessary to bring your concept to life, and wish you the very best in all aspects of your endeavor.

Duke

"May we have great luck and share out battles together !"

KG
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