$40.000 speaker advise. Check out my list


Hello all,

I'm currently owning a system which consists of Mark Levinson 33H amps, Mark Levinson Nr 32 Pre-amp, a Wadia 860x Cd player and a pair Revel Ultima Studio speakers. Cables are Nordost Valhalla/Valkyrja.

I believe my speakers are the weakest link in my system and am considering upgrading. I listen to all sorts of music, from jazz, classic to pop/dance.

I have a few speakers on my wish list but they are not easy to find to listen to them so I want ask you opinion first before I start searching for a dealer the have one or more of these brands.

Could you please go through the list and rank them from 1 to 6, best to "worse" speaker and explain why you think the list should be in that order.

The speakers I am thinking about are (in random order):

1. Sonus Faber Stradivari
2. Verity Sarastro
3. Lumen White white light
4. Rockport Antares
5. Revel Ultima Salon
6. Avalon Eidolon Diamond

Thanks a lot for your help.

Regards,

Max
maxx1973
Funny, I didn't see the Wilson Maxx 2 on Maxx1973's original list of 6 speakers. I also did not see Max ask for folks to expand on his list.

Are you a Wilson dealer or something Jkalman? Why are you pushing Wilson so hard?
Why enter the thread and try to change it's direction?
Settle down, pour yourself an adult beverage and enjoy your system.

Cheers,
John
BTW, I didn't realize it until I just read the Vandersteen website, they use Kevlar driver material on the 5a. No wonder I felt them to be grainy sounding in comparison to the Wilsons. I had a similar problem with the B&W 802D Kevlar cone material, and that is a major reason why I upgraded from them to the Wilsons. The B&W mid-range was often raspy/grainy to my ears, much like the Vandersteen 5a speakers I heard. I just don't seem to get along well with Kevlar drivers...
Jkalman, Being able to mod a component of lesser value to perform better or as good then more expensive components is been widely known by many audiophiles who want more better sound for less. Look at all the forums and hype on modding a oppo 981 for less then a thousand and those who have done it say it's in the area of $4000 to $7000 cd players. Rick Shultz does amazing things to the oppo.

Just because people think it is true, or say it is true, doesn't mean it is true...

Also, just because people by the stuff doesn't make it true either, the modders could just be manipulating a market for profit. Some proof on your part that the mods produce higher quality sound would go a long way in proving your point and disproving that the mods are not just some very creative and biased fiction.

As David Hannum said, "there's a sucker born every minute."

As far as pride in owning a Jaguar then a modded chevy has been the fall of man since the beginning. Mans obsession for material is strong. Not my prejudice just the way man is. Our nature is we want to out do the guy down the street. Material is a status item to this society called America.

Besides any failings of human nature....

I find this a little amusing, because no one in my daily life knows what a Wilson speaker is (or Vandersteen, or any other speaker on the original list). OK, maybe one guy, but only because I took him to HE2007 with me... Before that he never heard of them before. How many people in your daily life can tell the difference between a high-end piece of equipment and a cool looking Harman Kardon receiver? I think I know two people total, besides my equipment dealers, who know a few hifi companies (one is only an acquaintance), that is all! Meanwhile, everyone single person I know is aware of what a Jaguar is... If you want to impress the people you deal with on a daily basis, there are much better ways to accomplish that goal (unless of course, you are constantly surrounded by Audiophiles).
Are you a Wilson dealer or something Jkalman? Why are you pushing Wilson so hard?
Why enter the thread and try to change it's direction?

Nope. I'm not an audio dealer at all. I have sold a few pieces of my old equipment here on Audiogon though when upgrading recently. As per my profile... :)

You can see my personal webpage at http://www.jkalman.com

Funny, I didn't see the Wilson Maxx 2 on Maxx1973's original list of 6 speakers. I also did not see Max ask for folks to expand on his list.

When you have heard what you feel is a "great" thing, don't you want to share it with others also, so perhaps they too can enjoy it as well? Don't start posting irrational things just because I don't like your favorite personal speaker choice.

The original poster hasn't listened to anything on his list yet apparently, or at least not all of them. So giving him other options to check out is not unreasonable. Perhaps he will see a pair of Wilsons or Vandersteens at a dealer selling one of those other speakers he is considering, listen to them, and like them better than anything else. Perhaps he won't listen to them at all unless he hears about them from us first.

Again, I encourage him to demo as many different speakers as possible. It can only strengthen his eventual decision, and make him more certain he is choosing a speaker that is best for his ears. I've made the mistake of not demoing enough speakers before and paid the price when upgrading....