Crossover-less Speakers


I'd like to hear from those of you who transitioned to crossover-less speakers. I have a pair of Thiel CS 2 2s. I like 'em but I'm curious about the full-range crossover-less speaker types. I'd like to know what speaker you have and what speaker you traded up from. Are you getting the full range from your spkrs? Are you experiencing any peaks and valleys in the frequency response? Are you happy with the lows or are you augmenting with a powered sub? Thanks.
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To thread starter:
Not so much a transition as I still have the Maggies, but I had to let go of my Apogees in my 2nd system and replaced them with single drivers. I could not find a multi driver that worked for me. The combo I like is a single driver and a SET amp using the 45, 2a3 or 300b tube. Full range? Not likely. Having aroung 50 hz to maybe 15 hz without a x/o is a nice thing though. I don't mind the idea of adding a sub for below or a supertweeter for above IF needed. I use the Omega Super 3r, Omega A8 and Cain Super Abby. Only the A8, with its 8" Visaton B200, was a little peaky for my ears and room, but a simple filter in line with the + speaker wire put it where I like it.

Opinion on Duke vs Macrojack:
We all have the right to wonder if someone is going to benefit from an endorsement. The ONLY truthful answer is Yes, No, or Some. Duke asked, Macrojack answered "some". That "some" is then explained as VERY little. Fine, asked and answered. Draw your own conclusions as to motive and weigh the endorsement, but I do think it was right to at least ask.
Stop the presses. I have a confession. I just remembered that I sold my ex-neighbor a pair of Libtec speaker cables to go with my Druids that he bought from me. I have made money from Zu after all. However, the guy who bought them is not an audiophile and has never been to Audiogon. Nonetheless this should prove to be welcome fodder for you detectives.

There you go, Duke. See what you can do to manipulate and incriminate this new evidence.

But keep in mind that you already knew about my so called affiliation when you asked about it. That suggests that you were just trying to make trouble or call attention to yourself from the outset. You're weird.
Macrojack, you are attempting a mis-direction. I don't care how much business you actually have or have not done for Zu or Grado or whoever. You have agreed to provide the services a competent dealer would provide should the occasion arise in return for the compensation a dealer would expect (the percentage is less because you have not made the financial commitment that a stocking dealer would have). It doesn't matter whether any sales have happened or not. I have been dealer for products that I never sold a single unit of - I was still a dealer from the moment the agreement was made.

Just let people know that you are a Zu listening post when you comment on Zu, and follow the rules of etiquette that industry members do (or should) when it comes to commenting on competitors. That's all.

Is that so wierd?

Duke
Macrojack, with all due respect and IMHO, at first you were mildly out of line, now that your insulting another respected Audiogoner looking out for the rest of us, your really out of line.
Okay I will admit that I have Zu affiliated in my house!! I have owned their products for the last couple years.

Ha, yeah well who knows.. Believe it or not I am starting to see that it is very well exposed Zu is getting extremely successful, and it is starting to not make too much sense to many dealers and audio advocates as of late..

Huge backlash, this is very similar to how Odyssey audio especially with the Stratos Amp was treated a few years back, they are taking money from the bigger competition or direct competition now its like stopping a freight train..

Unfortunately this gets directly tagged to the product being not capable of holding its own, to bad, many miss opportunities. Oh well, just remember where and how to get the best value and sound you know how to whoever you are and we will all be okay.

By the way what I love about the Zu backlash is that nobody Can match the facts they put their product out there with a 60 day NO problem audition, this is still too hard to choke down they have such confidence, and realistically was the only reason I gave them a shot all hype, all B.S online quibbles aside, and they proved themselves, not the customers on this forum.

And by the way as to the argument of whether the above member Macrojack could benefit, I understand that this is a sticky situation, but don't hold it against Zu they don't police what some of their customers seem to throw out in public forums, they are busy making real products for people who care. This is a very rare case for sure... And somebody giving a suggestion due to the original thread is asking EXACTLY about a product we are speaking still validates an opinion dealer or not.