Revel Salon 2 versus WP 8

Dgad,

The measurements don't include the subwoofers. If I hook my Revel Sub 30s in and crossover at 80Hz I can eliminate all of the bass issues from 80Hz to below. The subs also have built in PEQ, so I can get a very flat response if I go that way. I currently only have them hooked into the surround potion of my setup. If I hook them into my two channel setup I will have to use them all the time or manually shut them off. I do know from listening to two channel through my surround setup that it does improve the bottom end.

Concert halls are usually big enough that bass doesn't become an issue. The modes are spread out so much. That and they usually do a much more thorough job acoustically since the space is designed for audio from the moment of conception (dimensions and all). My room was a pre-existing space.

Jkalman - I'm a bit surprised by your bass problems in a room that was designed for audio applications by a specialised company (Rives). I also initially have had bass bumps, but those were fixed by adding specially designed helmholtz resonators, that were tuned to a specific freq. Right now my room response is virtually "bump-free" (I do have a suckout in the 50-60 range, but that is room size related and is hard to cure).

You can check my room response in my system page.

My Watchdog as per Wilson was not needed w. the Maxx IIs. But in reality, simply turning the sub on & off answers the question. It is an absolute must. That is w. Maxx IIs. I had WP7s so it is easy to deduce the WP8s needs. If I optimize speaker placement for bass I lose the mids & highs. That is almost any speaker. That is why the best systems have a separate woofer tower etc. There is no way around it. What is best in every room is different. Wilson & the Revel's allow you to optimize but in different ways. But Subs are 100% must in a large room. But even w. subs (single) I have a suckout. I would love to try a 2nd sub but that is for another time. My sub has a remote turn on so the preamp turns it on. I use True RTA to analyze my output / freq response. It helps but is a pain. Turn on your subs & measure. Use a Y cable if you need separate connections for home theater & stereo. Hope I helped. There are several good subwoofer threads here on Agon.

JKLam, it was the new Salon 2s. Obviously my impressions really reflect my own tastes,...

Elberoth2- I'm not a bit surprised by Jkalmans bass problems. I too have a Rives room and have been fighting a huge 80hz bump even after adding (rather, knocking out a finished wall and building) a large Helmholz resonator. After parading a number of different speakers from active to single driver, the bump is persistant, albeit the magnitude varies slightly. A wholly disenchanting experience.