Speaker direction?


I have read where people talk about having there speakers
pointed toward there sitting posistion.Others have there speakers faceing straight ahead.What are the advantages of both? Will one direction produce a wider soundstage? Will one produce a better image?
I have Klipsch La Scalas in a small room(16x16)with one speaker in the corner and the other by just a wall in the back.There 7ft. apart with the listening chair 7ft.The speakers are faced toward the listener.I would like a larger soundstage,if that is possible.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
G.H.
groundhog
The more toe in used the the smaller the soundstage. Dynamics are also compressed. Some frequencies will be reduced more and others accentuated depending on room placement. The only reason I sold my Watt/Puppy 6's was do to the design flaw of having to aim them at your head ala headphones...without the toe in, imaging was unfocused. Theoreticals aren't worth diddly sometimes. I prefer my room to be filled with a living breathing sounscape...unrestricted and unhyped! Speakers should be on the long wall and 10 to 12 ft apart min. Seating should be no more than the distance apart, preferrably a ltlle less. Toe in only for adequate, realistic focus. Sit low with back against treated wall if possible.
Dave_b:

"The more toe in used the the [sic] smaller the soundstage." In fact, it depends upon the speaker and the room. A speaker like your WP 6 requires toe-in due to beaming caused in the upper mids by the use of what is basically a woofer as a midrange cone. Some speakers can achieve best staging when the axis crosses several feet in front of the listener (Revel Salons in some set-ups), others tend to sound best with no toe-in (Thiels), etc.

"Speakers should be on the long wall and 10 to 12 ft apart min." D'Appolito'd speakers like Dunlavys can play best that way, but many speakers will have a weak or non-existent center image if run without toe-in. As for long wall versus short wall, long wall happens to be my preference with most speakers, but not always.

"Seating should be no more than the distance apart, preferrably a ltlle [sic] less." Many speakers are best listened to far-field, particularly those with drivers spaced far apart so that the sound coming off the drivers has the space needed to properly integrate. The room boundaries and room treatment also affect optimal listening distance.

"Sit low with back against treated wall if possible." It depends. A basic rule of listening room acoustics is that either the front wall or back wall should be treated, but not both (and not always the back wall). Also, some speakers (the Aerial 20-T) require space behind the listener.

If you are interested, Robert Harley's book about hi-fi basics covers a lot of these points. Also, I noticed that your system is all-digital and uses Krell electronics - do you have experience with other types of systems?
Raquel, I assume you are a woman, because you are correct in everything you said:) Of course, I was generalizing for the average system and the most common mistakes made by audiophiles. I have owned many reference systems, but most were digital based. All things considered, I do believe most audiophiles tend to constrain their systems by placing the speakers incorrectly for whatever reasons they may have.
I believe this subject is based on finding the magic "sweet spot" where the soundstage is..... what your system ( speakers) has or can produce. The amount of toe in is like what was explained above. The best way to know if you have found your "sweet spot" is to know what it sounds like. Meaning that there is a real "soundstage' where music flows between and even past your speaker distance. It can be a pain as mentioned to get it right. One thing some forget to do is make sure that both channels are equal. I use a db meter from radio shack. One point I listen for is vocals. I want them dead center and the most natural. I don't agree with the equal or triangle set up. That is used for most near field monitors and or smaller rooms. For large floor standing speakers the distance and seating is best done by moving your seating position first. Then move the speakers farther apart and try again. Just one foot ( or 6 inches each side and or back wall also ) will made a change. As you are approaching the lock on position for the sweet spot small changes will get you where your system sounds the best. I like to do this at night when the ambient noise level in your room is the quietest and with very little light. Taking your eyes out of the equation helps your ears focus better.
Calldr, I grew up listening to music in a basement with the lights out. The ipod generation will never understand the complete immersion that is possible with music. Not only has music been dumbed down, but the art of listening has as well...along with the discrimination to even recognise either abilities loss as important.