chadnliz, if nothing appears to be sonically wrong with the vandys, can something still be wrong? just curious. dont know much about speakers. thanks bryon84. i did open up the box and the box was emty(about 20 lbs)and the wires going to the ind. speakers were about the size of yo yo string, so i wonder if i put insulation in them and good speaker wire in them how much better they would sound. the rock( radio) did sound a little hollow. but classical was almost identical(stravinsky). gerswin(sorry if i butchered the names) was much better in the technics.