Bass, more or less?

Plato,

Give this Organ CD a listen...not your usual funeral music by any means. This is one of my favorites(only have a handful)and the soundstage that this recording conveys is the best illusion I have ever heard. A real fun recording that is probably one of a kind.

Yes the Vacs do have great bass and the realism is top notch.

Enjoy
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I'm with Stringreen, "without bass there is no foundation." Yah, the midrange and highs need to be "right", that goes without saying but without good bass, you limit your music to small ensembles. No way a speaker that only goes down to 40 or 50 Hz is going to do justice to full orchestra or large scale music.

This "one-note" bass people often complain about is almost always coming from a ported speaker which are the most common. They're a design compromise and even the ones that go reasonably low fail to deliver good pitch definition.

The only good/great bass I've heard over the years has come from transmission-line or sealed boxes. Transmission-lines are usually relatively easy to drive but can be rather large and expensive to build. Sealed box designs are less efficient so need more power to drive them. Other than REL's, most subs that do good bass are sealed and have lots of power.

Good bass not only adds power and weight to music, it also opens up the soundstage and reveals small details and nuances that make a performance believable. If you haven't heard it then you won't know what I'm talking about and you can go on kidding yourself into believing that the midrange is all important but once you've heard what good bass adds to the music, you won't want to give it up.

>Let me first say that I have a pair of Sonus Faber Guarneri that I have owned for several years now. I am driving them with a Mcintosh 2102 (100 watts per side). I recently read an interview with Sonus faber founder Franco Serblin in wich he made an interesting statement. He said "The search for perfect bass is futile, because if you want more you miss it and when you have it it disturbs you".

I disagree since building my Linkwitz Orions where the bass sounds natural and covers the whole musical spectrum. Yo Dipole bass is directional (theoretically no output 90 degrees off-aixs, -6dB @ 60 degrees, -3dB @ 45 degrees) and in-room measurements confirmed that they weren't stimulating my height mode. Power response is also more in line with the rest of the spectrum because they retain a directivity index of 4.8dB instead of dropping to unity with equal output in all directions.

Parametric equalization with conventional speakers helps a lot too albeit over a smaller listening area.

I'd expect the Earl Geddess multiple woofer strategy (deployed in the Audio Kinesis Swarm) and throw-catch double bass array (An array of woofers on the front wall spaced to create an essentially planar wave which is caught by a matching array setup on the back wall operating 180 degrees out of phase plus a time delay to accomodate transit time across the room).

The key here is "woofer" not "sub woofer" because you're trying to cover most of the modal region not just the last octave.

>I'd expect the Earl Geddess multiple woofer strategy (deployed in the Audio Kinesis Swarm) and throw-catch double bass array (An array of woofers on the front wall spaced to create an essentially planar wave which is caught by a matching array setup on the back wall operating 180 degrees out of phase plus a time delay to accomodate transit time across the room)

to meet or exceed what I get.

I need to edit more carefully.