Hertz Meter Reading Device


Hi all!

Does anyone know where I can go to buy a meter reading of how low or high your speakers can go? For example: I would like to know how low my subwoofer can go down to (Hz).

Do you know the brand that people are using to test out sound levels? And I am not talking about the Sound Meter which show you the db levels.

My subwoofer claim that it can go down to 11Hz but I want to test it out myself in my own home to see how low it can go in Hz and NOT in db.

Thanks!
mantaraydesign
Hi Bob,

Those are logical questions, and the answer to the first one is that if the system reproduces the music in a neutral manner, with flat frequency response, then the ear will hear it similarly to how it would have heard the original live performance. If the system were set up to compensate for the Fletcher-Munson or other "equal loudness curves," the perceived sound would be very imbalanced because the hearing process in real life has no such compensation.

That assumes, of course, that you are listening at realistic volume levels. Some compensation may be in order if the listening volume is unrealistically low, which is why low-fi and mid-fi receivers sometimes include a "loudness control," which does just that. Of course, with that type of equipment one will often tend to want to listen at less than realistic volumes, because their distortion will be both greater and more objectionable at higher volumes.

Rodman has provided some good information about how to do it right, and about the complexities that are involved, and ElDartford and Buconero have made excellent points about sensitivity to level and to room effects.

Re level matching by ear, I have no experience trying to match satellites and subs, because my speakers are pretty much full range, but I would think that using test tones would at best provide a rough starting point, with the final adjustments having to be made using well-recorded music that contains significant deep bass content.

Regards,
-- Al
If I set a sat's level to be 85dB, by SPL meter, at 1K Hz and then set the sub's level to be 85dB at 40 Hz, why don't we attempt to compensate for the loudness curve and set the level higher than 85dB so the perceived level matches not the measured level?

Ideally you want your system to respond close to flat and then tilted slightly towards your room and personal tastes but still primarily so as to reproduce what is on the recording.

It is usually the job of the Mastering Engineer to decide how to balance the sound. Soft pieces tend to be mastered bass heavy to compensate for the usual fact that they are played back at modest volumes whilst heavy rock may be mixed bass light so that it can be cranked.

Examples:
Owner of a Lonely Heart - Yes - is designed to be cranked
On Broadway - Weekend in LA Live George Benson - is designed to be cranked
Killing Me Softly - The Fugees - is designed to be played more softly and has heavy bass.
Happy Coat - Osabe Trio with Ray Brown on bass - is designed to be played softly as it has heavy bass

FWIW: 100 db is about optimum flat as far as our hearing sensitivity goes and the biggest change is in the bass where extreme LF goes from being barely audible at 70 db SPL to loud at 110 db SPL.

This whole issue is clouded by the fact that most speakers compress badly when you exceed 95 db SPL at 2 meters (typical istening spot). This can ruin many otherwise excellent recordings that were meant to be cranked - as the dynamics is all lost in the BBQ temperatures inside the woofer/midrange voice coils.
>Rodman99999 said:
>The low freq cut off for Redbook CDs is 20hz

This would seem to be a misunderstanding.
As other have posted, there are test CDs that provide signals under 10 Hz.

Maybe you were thinking of the upper limit of 44/16 being around 20 KHz?
Fab4- The IEC standards on Redbook CDs included the frequency response of 20-20kHz. Read under, 'Technical Details' on this site(click on 'Red Book Audio CD Standard', bottom of page): (http://tripatlas.com/Red_Book) Like most other things in this hobby; nothing is set in stone, and while most Redbook music CDs are recorded with the freq below 20Hz filtered out, there are some out there engineered with info below that(mostly test/tech CDs). Note what are cited here as the lower freq response limits of CD and SACD: (http://www.answers.com/topic/super-audio-compact-disc), under 'Overview'.
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