Lacking Soundstage - Vandersteen 2C


Hello,

I have been trying different placements with Vandersteen 2C speakers, but soundstage and depth have been elusive. The speakers are placed 2ft from the back wall and 2 ft from the side walls. One thing though, only the right speaker hads side wall next to it, the left one has a pillar (next to the entrance). The speakers are about 4 ft apart and about 8 ft from the listening position. The speakers are (now) toe'd in a bit, still cluttered soundstage.

Is there something wrong with the speaker placement?
livin_262002
I will just affirm the placement recommendations of the previous posters. The original 2C's were my first real high end speakers many years ago, and they generated a huge and enveloping soundstage, but the room I had them in gave them a ton of breathing room, and I remember LOTS of futzing around before I got them optimally placed.(I was single back then and could have my rig way out into the room... LOL...) But hang in there.... they're tremendous speakers if you can get them placed right.
I've had a couple of pairs of 2c's over the years and have always considered them one of the best there is. All of the recommendations above are great but it's true that your room and configuration may be a little small for them. I always found that little to zero toe-in should be required to get the best image, but usually in a little bigger space. Getting them spread farther than 4 feet was probably the best thing you could do and getting the tilt right to smooth the tweeter response is also critical.

What else is in your system? Vandy's are great speakers but with the right amplifier driving them, they just come alive... maybe it's all a good excuse for an upgrade! ;)
Friends,

Sorry for the delayed update, but was busy at work :-). Well coming to the point, I tried a few things with speaker placements, now the speakers disappear into the soundstage but, the sound image seems to be left heavy (meaning it seems to be more defined between the the center and the left speaker), although vocals are imaging dead in center. No toe-in at all and no tilts at this time.

Just a refresher, no wall next to the left speaker (just a pillar) and glass window about 12" from the right speaker and a 2 ft wall between the window and a glass sliding door.

Any ideas?

Regards
Heavy wool drapes on that window may help. Wool army blankets are useful for experimenting.

Are you sure you can't do long wall placement? Your listening position would be close to the back wall with this placement, so you'd need to treat the wall behind your head (4" thick panels should do it. ATS Acoustics makes some inexpensive 4" panels).
Daverz, Thanks for the suggestion but cannot place the system against the long wall, that wall has a closet space (without doors) and an enterance to the room