Nude Turntable Project


I could not fit the whole story in this Forum so have had to add it to my System Page.
I am attempting to hear if a 'naked' DD turntable can sound as good as Raul claims.
Please click the link below to read the story.
NUDE TT81
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The cover is grounded by three screws to the frame of the tt. Also, originally there was a ground cable attached to the cover. I have grounded my tt via a new 3 wire pc that replaced the original non-grounded 2 wire line. The new ground-wire is attached to the frame via the circuit-board stand-offs. Also, I highly recommend damping the cover well, including using a footer at the center to drain it.

I get zero feedback even when it is too loud to be in the room, and my left speaker is about 2 feet away from the turntable.
Richardkrebs,
Is there a secondary issue here?Could there be acoustic feedback following the initial EMR problem?
I think you're right....
When I play music at loud volume containing 30-60Hz bass drum beats (like Cream's 2005 Royal Albert Hall Concert or Copland's 'Fanfare for the Common Man' Ref. Recordings)....this 50/60Hz feedback loop can take hold.
At the same time I can feel the vibrations in the supporting shelf and in the granite cradle...😱
As the shelf is directly over the Vandersteen subwoofers, this seems like air-borne sound converting into structure-born feedback.
But why only recently...and why is the Raven not similarly affected as it is identically situated?

Halcro
Have you tried testing the resonance characteristics of the granite pipe?
The material does have a tendancy to ring like a bell.

Also by "identically situated" do you mean that you placed the Raven at the same place on the shelf as previously occupied by the Victor?

Does the Raven have a suspension?
Hi Richard

The Raven does not have suspension. It does however have OEM Stillpoint feet
Henry,
If you will recall some years back in my experimentation I was running three tables side by side. I had each set up well on the concrete slab. Making nice music in their own different and unique way.

The test for structure feed back was to lower the needle on a still record un mute and crank the volume slowly. Then jump up and down beside each table searching out air pockets in the poured concrete. You're not a true audiophile until you have danced with your turntable.

I then brought out the bad boy. The Acutex 420 str. As naked a cartridge as there ever was. And I teamed it up with wiring that was unshielded except for its own poly covering. What followed was interesting.

The Jean Nantais Lenco exhibited a drone like noise. If I remember it was almost mechanical sounding. In talks with JN, I added an extra ground from the motor to the plate but to no avail. I was unwilling to make further mods to his table so that was the end of the road.

The Technics SP10 II made noise and required an extra ground. It was added from where the bolts goes into the casing and then into the preamp. This cleaned things up and it was quiet. Almost.

My former modded thread drive TNT/SDS drive with pneumatic suspension. An absolutely black silence, as black as the table itself. It revealed a veil in the music that the SP10 was making.

As we say - You don't know what's there, until you hear "it" removed.

So the 420str is a very good test cartridge - imo. If things pass with that cartridge they can only get better from there. Cheers

Have you tried testing the resonance characteristics of the granite pipe?

Granite pipe 8^0