Schiit Bifrost Multibit option


Just seen this new option/upgrade and wondered if anyone has tried it yet?

Thanks
williewonka
Thanks for the link George...I read through it, and aside from the fact that the main crux of his analysis is to ultimately sell you one of his products, the real issue I have is that he, like so many before him, absolutely cannot get his point across without resorting to banal hyperbole. For example, someone, anyone, please tell me the name of the Delta-Sigma dac you listened to that made cymbals sound like someone crinkling a piece of paper. And while you're at it, tell us the amp and speakers used, and whether you were sitting in a normal room or buried 10 feet underground in a wooden box with Uncle Ben's rice stuffed in your ears, when you heard a D-S dac make a cymbal sound like crinkling paper. I mean, come on...

"cymbal sound like crinkling paper"

Yes his description of the highs is a bit out there, but I think know were he's coming from.

I too on Redbook find DS has a lack of "jump factor" and midrange body to the sound and the bass of Multibit always impresses me over DS, and cymbals on DS either on rock or orchestral don't hit hard and clean, they are either too laid back and sweet or in your face and harsh depending on the filtering used.

Delta Sigma has massive noise that need to be got rid of a bit like Class D amps with it's switching noise.
(Teac gives may different filter combos for the user to play with their DS dacs)
It all comes down to the filter/s that have to get rid of it.

I read a while back one of the digital gurus on DIYHI.org where all the big boys play like Thorsten Loesch (AMR), Charles Hansen (Ayre), Pedja Rojic (Audial) and a bunch of others used this analogy. (hope I got it right from memory)
In Class D the switching noise can be filtered two ways either very high and out of the audio band, which leaves some noise in the audio band, or low which has phase effects and HF roll-off's with in the audio band, or half way a bit of both. One sound hard "like crinkled paper" the other sound soft (opaque) or a combo of both.

Cheers George
Just to complicate matters there is also the Bifrost 4490 upgrade @ $100, which states...

This DAC/Analog upgrade card betters the sonic and measured performance of all previous Bifrosts, including Uber. It incorporates the AKM AK4490 Verita® D/A converter, followed by a sophisticated fully discrete summing and gain stage with no capacitors in the signal path.

Is this an even better upgrade than multibit?

Where I am having the problem is...
1. the Multibit works with the Uber Upgrade
2. the 4490 upgrade sounds better than the Uber
- (but is that with the Multibit?)
3. seems the Multi-bit and 4490 are mutually exclusive?

So which option sounds better?

Is anyone else confused like me?

I believe the Multibit dac upgrade $250 for the Bitfrost is a cheaper version of the Yaggdrasil's Multibit dac $2990, both made by Analogue Devices.

And the AKM4490 is a Delta Sigma dac the cheapest $100 upgrade. From what it had when first released 2013 which had the AKM4399 Delta Sigma.

Cheers George
George - on second reading of the Schiit site it appears that both upgrades sound better than all previous Bifrost config's as well as Bifrost + Uber.

It appears that the Multibit and 4490 upgrades eliminates the need for Uber, which is not too good if you have bought into it.

I'll drop schiit an email for clarification

Thanks for the clarification