Absolute top tier DAC for standard res Redbook CD


Hi All.

Putting together a reference level system.
My Source is predominantly standard 16/44 played from a MacMini using iTunes and Amarra. Some of my music is purchased from iTunes and the rest is ripped from standard CD's.
For my tastes in music, my high def catalogues are still limited; so Redbook 16/44 will be my primary source for quite some time.

I'm not spending DCS or MSB money. But $15-20k retail is not out of the question.

Upsampling vs non-upsampling?
USB input vs SPDIF?

All opinions welcome.

And I know I need to hear them, but getting these ultra $$$ DAC's into your house for an audition ain't easy.

Looking for musical, emotional, engaging, accurate , with great dimension. Not looking for analytical and sterile.
mattnshilp

Thanks Bill as you can tell I'm still a Redbook stalwart, and never delved into DSD as I've never heard it yet, convince me that it's better than a well implemented R2R Ladder Dac playing RedBook.
So it's a bit like when they release earilier/older album that was only ever originally recorded in PCM 44.1
And they bring it out again and say "new high rez" just released of the same thing.
You know it was done only in PCM 44.1 and know it was never re-recorded in hi-rez or dsd, so it's not better just done so it can be resold again to the gullible in dsd format.

Cheers George


So correct me if I'm wrong this DOP protocol on this Thrax dac must switch in a Delta Sigma chip somewhere along the way?

Cheers George
George - While I appreciate the sound quality of DSD, I believe that digital recordings are best represented in whatever format they were originally mastered in. So to my ears music that was originally mastered in DSD sounds best when converted to analog directly, and likewise PCM mastered material sounds best when converted from PCM. A lot depends upon the specific DAC being used though, as some excel in either DSD or PCM and may sound better in their best format even with converted files. Nothing in audio is absolute, there are many differing opinions on this topic. I'm not certain about your last question, but I don't think that DoP support necessarily indicates that a Delta Sigma chip is being used. I'm sure someone here will speak up to correct me if I'm wrong about that.

Thanks Bill you kind of echo my thoughts.

From my listening experience if originally recorded in PCM 16/44.1 then the best way to listen is via proper implemented R2R ladder Multibit dac 16/44.1 conversion.

If that same 16/44.1 is played back using Delta Sigma, it worse tha the Multibit

Again if that same recording is re-done into DSD (HiRez) and played back via Delta Sigma type dac to me it is still worse.

The only time DSD "may" to me sound better, is when it's recorded from the beginning using DSD, not that I have ever heard it yet.
And I would like to hear normal mainstream artist, not special one offs of obscure artist/bands just to show off the DSD format.

Cheers George
As it stands I believe I am the first in the world to have this system and I am utterly disgusted at al of you for not thinking of it sooner. It is the proverbial "No Brainer".

Matt,

I enjoyed your 'poke' at all of us audio nerds who take ourselves too seriously. yes.....we can get carried away and self absorbed. but if it makes each day a little richer and makes the music reproduction better then what the heck. anyway thank you for entertaining us and I can't believe you have not had more comments.....are we really that caught up in our own stuff?

I have to admit that I'm typically as bad as anyone.

time to lighten up.....

cheers!