B&W 'New' 800 Series

I saw the pictures, Mannnn put them against the 800D3 series. And the B&W will look cheap.

The drivers are white (ceramic drivers with aluminium), and are totally one with the speaker. They use new leather. More smooth, like the leather B&W used for the 800D

I loved the 800D in high black with full leather.

There is only a small protection for the drivers, so you can see the full leather. The above plinth of the Platinum series was silver and is now more one with the speaker and is black.

The drivers are new and lighter and stiffer than the ones they use now. Monitor Audio developed a new way of how drivers are connected. The connection is more from the centre. This gives the best response in the market.

What it does is that you have a lot of dynamics and speed even at very low volume. This makes the response a lot faster. Monitor Audio is a head in this area compared to B&W. And this is what I don't understand why B&W has a less fast response.

The new ribbon tweeter is wider and bigger. This gives a deeper and wider stage as well. They changed and improved the crossovers. The mid freq. is even more open en natural.

Roksan uses the same tweeter in the Darius S1. Monitor Audio uses it till 100khz. Even with a 2D amp this speaker could crerate stage depth and played almost 1 metre ouside the speaker. There was no harshness at all.

B&W is using copper from Van den Hul inside their speakers. Monitor Audio uses 100% full silver and the best WBT terminals.

3 dimensional sound is in the world of highend more common and not unique or special.

We always say: when you spend highend money and don't have a 3D stage you never will be taken seriously.

Right. It's getting the 4 dimensional soundstage that's the tricky part. ;-)

When you are able to create diversity in stage height the music comes to you differently.

It is my living and I am addicted to music, but I understood that for most people it is very difficult to create it.

Height speakers for Dolby Atmos/Auro 3D only will work when your amp/speakers both can create stage depth and width.

B&W is a big company, but this doesn't garantee them to create speakers who can give you a huge holographic stage.

I think they need new people and other materials and systems to create a speaker which can build a 3D stage. I also think that the D4 series will look differently than the D3 series look today. Mark my words!

"When you are able to create diversity in stage height the music comes to you differently."

I actually agree. And getting proper vibration isolation under the source components especially and hopefully under EVERYTHING will go a long way in achieving the ever expanding sphere of the recording venue, what we commonly call soundstage, including the dimension of height, do often missing in action. In fact, what's revealed eventually, after much aftermarket puttering around, is how well organized and de-interleaved everything is.