The dreaded Philips 12.4 CDM strikes again. Surprised you got that much life out of it. Had a Classe CDP with the 12.4 that was replaced on an almost every other year basis. Happy to read it has worked out for you, although I would not have opted the route you went. Enjoy the SF.
Review: Sonic Frontiers SFCD-1 CD Player
Category: Digital
Review: Sonic Frontiers SFCD-1 SE upgrade
I just had my Sonic Frontiers SFCD-1 CD Player upgraded to the "SE" model by Chris Johnson at Parts Connexion (PCX) - http://www.partsconnexion.com/. My SFCD-1 originally retailed for $3,800 and was built in 1997. I had put in Telefunken tubes, which were a significant improvement over the stock Sovtek’s. I was very happy with the non-SE sound, a nice blend of detail with a hint of that tube warmth. As I considered the upgrade, I looked for info on Audiogon and other places for others’ experience, but found precious little. I hope this helps anyone considering this upgrade for themselves.
If you are reading this, then you likely know that SF went out of business some time ago, but the former president, Chris Johnson, founded PCX to service the Anthem/Assemblage line as well as the SF gear. I'm sure they do a bunch of other stuff too, check it out on their website.
The impetus behind the upgrade was the failure of the transport - a not uncommon affliction of the SFCD-1's I understand. Symptoms are the “no disc” display on the front on a percentage of your CD’s. Mine, over time, grew from just a few to well over 50% of my CD’s giving this error. A quick note to Chris confirmed the problem, and for $99 + labour (that’s how the spell it in Canada) would solve the problem.
It was at that point I inquired about the SE upgrade option. It was something I had heard about and had been considering for quite some time (it’s been available for a number of years now) but had never gotten around to. There are quite a few options around the upgrade, more that I care to bore you all with here, but many caps and resisters are replace, tubes upgraded, silver fuses installed, new RCA’s etc. The cost of the upgrade is around $600, plus shipping both ways to Canada (~$75 each way). Add to that the cost of the transport repair ($150) and I managed to shoot a pretty big hole in $1,000. Clearly there was a bit of trepidation on my part, as $1000 goes a long way to buying a good new player these days. Not to mention one that supports SACD.
Talking with Chris at PCX, he described the sonic differences (improvements) of the SE over the stock SFCD-1 to me. He said that there was a night and day difference in the sound, and while the SF was great in it’s day, it could really benefit from some modernization. The resulting sound would be more open, have better channel separation, top to bottom linearity, extension and more detail - putting it on par with some of the best players in the $4k-$6k range.
But on to the interesting part – the results of the upgrade! Unpacking the SFCD-1, the first thing that I noticed was a strong “hot melt glue” odor. I had to open it up to re-install the tubes and could immediately see the internal changes. I had taken detailed pictures of the inside before shipping so that I could compare. I have no formal EE training, but the installed parts looked great, very cleanly done. Indeed, some of the new components had been glued in place, perhaps to protect them during shipping or to ensure they were not subject to vibration. Fortunately, the smell was completely gone within a few hours. PCX also returned all the old parts, so I have a bag full of misc. stuff.
After I reinstalled the Telefunken tubes I put it all back together and let it break in for about 10 hours before I did any serious listening. But it was impossible NOT to listen a little. With 0 break-in, I was immediately surprised by the detail. That’s not to say that the SF wasn’t detailed before, but this was to another level. As if a veil was removed, there are more layers, more depth to the sound. I forced myself to turn off the amp leaving the SFCD-1 on repeat until the next day.
I’m not sure if there will be further break in as I continue to listen, but after the initial 10 hours, there was not a lot of difference compared to when I first turned it on. Given that the tubes were already broken in this was not a huge surprise. Playing some familiar music, the SFCD-1 SE continued to amaze. Where my CD playback had been very good, the mod really took it to the next level. No CD hardness or glare, the sound is far smoother, with a depth that I had not previously heard in my system. The highs are very extended, yet not harsh in any way, the bottom is solid without being over-emphasized or bloated. The SF was always very linear in response, and continues to be so. The mod, however, made the sound more 3 dimensional. There is also more separation and better placement of instruments and voices in space. I’ve had several occasions of hearing new things on CD’s - ones that I thought I knew very well! Going in, I was pretty unsure of spending almost $1k on a 10 year old CD player and wasn’t sure what to expect. Chris Johnson made a believer out of me!
At the end of the day, I’m more of a vinyl/tube guy then a SS/CD guy. I used to enjoy showing friends how much better the ‘table sounded than CD playback. The mod to the SFCD-1 has gone a long way to leveling the playing field. I'm REALLY re-enjoying my CD collection, hearing many of them as if it was the first time. If you have to send your SFCD-1 in anyway, definitely consider the SE upgrade, I am very please with the results on mine.
Associated gear
• Onix SP3 tube integrated (38 wpc)
• DK MII tube/SS integrated (150 wpc)
• JA Michell GyroDec TT
• Spendor 9/1 speakers
• REL sub
• Harmonic Tech IC’s
• Audience AU24 speaker cable
Review: Sonic Frontiers SFCD-1 SE upgrade
I just had my Sonic Frontiers SFCD-1 CD Player upgraded to the "SE" model by Chris Johnson at Parts Connexion (PCX) - http://www.partsconnexion.com/. My SFCD-1 originally retailed for $3,800 and was built in 1997. I had put in Telefunken tubes, which were a significant improvement over the stock Sovtek’s. I was very happy with the non-SE sound, a nice blend of detail with a hint of that tube warmth. As I considered the upgrade, I looked for info on Audiogon and other places for others’ experience, but found precious little. I hope this helps anyone considering this upgrade for themselves.
If you are reading this, then you likely know that SF went out of business some time ago, but the former president, Chris Johnson, founded PCX to service the Anthem/Assemblage line as well as the SF gear. I'm sure they do a bunch of other stuff too, check it out on their website.
The impetus behind the upgrade was the failure of the transport - a not uncommon affliction of the SFCD-1's I understand. Symptoms are the “no disc” display on the front on a percentage of your CD’s. Mine, over time, grew from just a few to well over 50% of my CD’s giving this error. A quick note to Chris confirmed the problem, and for $99 + labour (that’s how the spell it in Canada) would solve the problem.
It was at that point I inquired about the SE upgrade option. It was something I had heard about and had been considering for quite some time (it’s been available for a number of years now) but had never gotten around to. There are quite a few options around the upgrade, more that I care to bore you all with here, but many caps and resisters are replace, tubes upgraded, silver fuses installed, new RCA’s etc. The cost of the upgrade is around $600, plus shipping both ways to Canada (~$75 each way). Add to that the cost of the transport repair ($150) and I managed to shoot a pretty big hole in $1,000. Clearly there was a bit of trepidation on my part, as $1000 goes a long way to buying a good new player these days. Not to mention one that supports SACD.
Talking with Chris at PCX, he described the sonic differences (improvements) of the SE over the stock SFCD-1 to me. He said that there was a night and day difference in the sound, and while the SF was great in it’s day, it could really benefit from some modernization. The resulting sound would be more open, have better channel separation, top to bottom linearity, extension and more detail - putting it on par with some of the best players in the $4k-$6k range.
But on to the interesting part – the results of the upgrade! Unpacking the SFCD-1, the first thing that I noticed was a strong “hot melt glue” odor. I had to open it up to re-install the tubes and could immediately see the internal changes. I had taken detailed pictures of the inside before shipping so that I could compare. I have no formal EE training, but the installed parts looked great, very cleanly done. Indeed, some of the new components had been glued in place, perhaps to protect them during shipping or to ensure they were not subject to vibration. Fortunately, the smell was completely gone within a few hours. PCX also returned all the old parts, so I have a bag full of misc. stuff.
After I reinstalled the Telefunken tubes I put it all back together and let it break in for about 10 hours before I did any serious listening. But it was impossible NOT to listen a little. With 0 break-in, I was immediately surprised by the detail. That’s not to say that the SF wasn’t detailed before, but this was to another level. As if a veil was removed, there are more layers, more depth to the sound. I forced myself to turn off the amp leaving the SFCD-1 on repeat until the next day.
I’m not sure if there will be further break in as I continue to listen, but after the initial 10 hours, there was not a lot of difference compared to when I first turned it on. Given that the tubes were already broken in this was not a huge surprise. Playing some familiar music, the SFCD-1 SE continued to amaze. Where my CD playback had been very good, the mod really took it to the next level. No CD hardness or glare, the sound is far smoother, with a depth that I had not previously heard in my system. The highs are very extended, yet not harsh in any way, the bottom is solid without being over-emphasized or bloated. The SF was always very linear in response, and continues to be so. The mod, however, made the sound more 3 dimensional. There is also more separation and better placement of instruments and voices in space. I’ve had several occasions of hearing new things on CD’s - ones that I thought I knew very well! Going in, I was pretty unsure of spending almost $1k on a 10 year old CD player and wasn’t sure what to expect. Chris Johnson made a believer out of me!
At the end of the day, I’m more of a vinyl/tube guy then a SS/CD guy. I used to enjoy showing friends how much better the ‘table sounded than CD playback. The mod to the SFCD-1 has gone a long way to leveling the playing field. I'm REALLY re-enjoying my CD collection, hearing many of them as if it was the first time. If you have to send your SFCD-1 in anyway, definitely consider the SE upgrade, I am very please with the results on mine.
Associated gear
• Onix SP3 tube integrated (38 wpc)
• DK MII tube/SS integrated (150 wpc)
• JA Michell GyroDec TT
• Spendor 9/1 speakers
• REL sub
• Harmonic Tech IC’s
• Audience AU24 speaker cable
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