B&W 'New' 800 Series

Bo1972 - When I went to the toilet over there I saw a black pair of B&W 800 matrix when I was taking a piss.

:^)
When I go downstairs and I make a left to my older Room A and I see them inside there; They make me want to piss too....before I start listening.

Bo1972 - Monitor Audio is superior in timing and response.

Bo - for a minute put yourself in an audiophile's shoes with his own system, instead of installing systems for customers. Think about this.
These B&W speakers are easily modified for timing and response. They came from the B&W factory with silver wire and WBT connectors. Highest quality crossovers - four on each speakers for each driver, built from materials that will last longer than me. They can be Quad amplified. For the crazy person the crossovers are an open design easily accessible behind each drivers back panel. This allows the person to, if not satisfied with timing or response; to easily bypass factory crossovers, and bring in a component like the Krell or Pass Lab crossovers;

https://passlabs.com/products/preamplifiers/speciality/xvr-1

tailor the crossover points for your own room nodes. You can put a SS amp/s on the bottom for the woofers and tubes on the midrange/tweeters if you want . Open access speaker design under John Bowers - RIP.

Look forward to your shootout. Consider starting a Monitor Audio thread too. Cheers

Audio for us is not based on brands, but only on quality. After time it can change. We test and compare and are only interested in the best results. 

I have my doubts if B&W took the right decision with the new looks and different sound and properties compared to the older series.

I owned the B&W DM580 in the past. It was the last series John Bowers worked on if I remember. I sold many many B&W speakers in the past. 

Time goes on just like techniques, I remember when the Nautilus series came out. Every one was talking about it. Now when I hear people talk about the D3 series, it is a different world. 

We love to test and compare, that will always be the fun part of audio. I remember when I was looking for myfirst expensive set of loudspeakers. I took 7 months for this. It was by far the most exciting time in audio in over 17 years.

I wonder if many of the same people as in the Nautlilus period still work at B&W. I remember that I had contact in 2000 with a developer of the Nautilus speakers. I wrote him that they should make the series after this one higher. About 10 cm higher.

Monitor Audio gave me the 3 dimensional physical image I was looking for. I tried it with the 800D1 at that time. But the stage was not as wide and deep as I wanted. So I stopped with B&W. The new look would be a 100% no go for me. It is not possible to accept this. When Monitor Audio would come out with a llok like this, I would not even want to sell it. Loudspeakers are more than sound.

Yesterday I spoke with Monitor Audio about the new Platinum Series. I am a perfectionist and very demanding. I made several remarks as well on the loudspeakers. I think this is how you need to respond to products.

I hope that people who sell them are as open as I am. And tell the people of B&W what they would have seen and heard differently.

Sorry Bo, I owned plenty of Audioquest cables...which are some of my favorite cables compared to others available, but MIT (at least Magnum series) simply destroy all competitors!!  My M1.3 loom does 3D Holography with crushing dynamics and accurate tone like none other....but I understand the business end might dictate selling Audioquest in some markets.

Dear Dave, the differences were that the silver AQ interconnects had better separation of voices and instruments and more details and a better timing and dynamics. A much better presentation of the differences in heights of a recording. 
 
Voices and instruments are more realistic in proportion with the AQ. I hate the demos with MIT when voices are about 3metres wide. The people who give these demos don't understand anything of real music. These are the fools in audio!

The MIT had a more warm mid frequency. This was the only small benefit.

We can also create a much higher black level than all our competitors. We go so much further than all of them. We have done a lot of research in electricity and electrosmog this year. We made a lot of progress in sound by using different tools for this.

I love the new cables AQ developed. I own 2 sets of the newest AQ Wel Signature xlr. They can bring you to a much higher level in listening to music. Many people are often not aware of how important they are. I also use 2 new sets of the Purist Audio LE luminist powercables with Oyaide M1/F1. They create the best black level what can be achieved with powercables.