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Bass is not enough !!! Speaker problem? Speaker cable? Power Amp? PC of Power Amp?


The bass is not enough!!  Not sure which part is not good enough. Can anyone give any idea??

My system:
Speaker: Sonus Faber Amati (SC = Jorma Prime)
Power amp: Esoteric A80 mono blocks (IC = Transparent Opus MM )
Pre-amp: Esoteric C-02 (PC = Jorma Prime)

PC for Power Amp:
I had been using BMI Oceanic Statement。The sound was beautiful, but the bass was not low enough.
I changed to NBS Black Label II 。The bass was better, but still it was not good enough. However, the sound was not as good as BMI Oceanic Statement. So now I have changed back to BMI .

How I can improve the bass performance??
Amati's weak point is bass? Jorma Prime's bass is weak? 

Thanks!!

opera_lover
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danvignau
935 posts
 
I use a separate amp and preamp to power my subs, It works great. The two systems are matched and the subs are time aligned, using a ruler, with my B&W's. I recently had to use a different preamp for a while, and my bass got really muddy, despite my amps' having once been described in a review as having "gargantuan bass".
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dentdog
498 posts
 
One thing not mentioned-plug the power amp into the wall.
Corner traps from GIK or other-a must. Go for it here!
I have to have great bass also. Have moved my speakers, sometimes tenths of inches, sometimes feet. It really paid off.
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dentdog
498 posts
 
One thing not mentioned-plug the power amp into the wall.
Corner traps from GIK or other-a must. Go for it here!
I have to have great bass also. Have moved my speakers, sometimes tenths of inches, sometimes feet. It really paid off. Listening seat also.
Haven't measured, but suspect I get 20 hz or better, but it took some work.
Order the soundtrack for Homeboy, Eric Clapton. That will get you some bass and you can use it as a test when moving your stuff around as well as trapping the room.
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dave_b
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Opera Lover...a lot of smoke and mirrors here.  You want dynamics, huge soundstage, low level detail and phenomenal powerful controlled bass? Do yourself a favor and try MIT.  I went through a similiar experience having spent oodles of $$$ and missing bass.  You will have impedance matched cables and sound that you could not think possible through a stereo!  
opera_lover OP
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The focus of the topic was to find out/address issues of the bass problem, in the current set up.  Changing gears should be considered if nothing we can do about the current set up.

As previously reported, after removing all the BDR carbon boards from source, DAC, the bass was improved a lot.
Removing such boards from Pre and power, it was further improved.
Lastly, removing TAOC boards from the speakers, additional improvement was found.

Now, the system had good bass, with more details, and I am very happy.

In brief, I might say such boards have killed the bass in my system. (Your system might be different)


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