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Is New Vinyl Exempt from Loudness Wars?

I'm seeing new vinyl sold in many unexpected places these days.  

For those who have bought a lot of new vinyl,  I'm wondering if these tend to be mastered differently from similar newer CD  remasters that often show effects of the "Loudness Wars"?

Is it a mixed bag perhaps?   Much like CDs?

I wonder because if I knew there was a different mastering done for new vinyl I might consider buying some if I knew. 

But new vinyl is expensive and I would not want to get essentially the same end result in regards to sound quality as I would get with CD for much less.

Just wondering.
mapman
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ct0517
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And when the CD mastering engineer gets a hold of it, at the very least it will get normalized (which is actually a good thing), but will likely also get compressed and may see some EQ. It has to work in a car! So this is why you see the LP showing greater dynamic range.

But the ratings in the database for vinyl are higher than the HD tracks too, according to the DR database.  And according to this HD Tracks link.  

http://www.hdtracks.com/tigerlily

There are 96/24 files available.
Btw - I don't know of anyone that plays HD tracks in their car. :^)
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geoffkait
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It gets worse, trust me. Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water.

DR scale
bad
01 02 03 04 05 06 07

Transition
08 09 10 11 12 13

Good
14 15 16 17 18 19 20

SACDs compressed, a few examples...

The Who Tommy Deluxe Edition [SACD 2] i 2003 10 07 11 lossless Unknown
The Who Tommy Deluxe Edition [SACD 1] i 2003 08 06 10 lossless Unknown
The Who Live at The Royal Albert Hall (SACD) 2000 09 07 14 lossless Unknown

Peter Gabriel Us [SACD] i 2003 09 07 12 lossless Unknown

Bob Dylan. Street-Legal [SACD, SACD layer] 2003 08 08 09 lossless CD
Bob Dylan. Oh Mercy [SACD-SACD layer] 2003 11 08 14 lossless CD

Jeff Beck Blow By Blow [SACD] i 2006. 09 08 10 lossless Unknown

Pink Floyd. Dark Side of the Moon [SACD] i 2003 10 09 11 lossless Downmix





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onhwy61
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There was a time when how it would sound in a car was important.  It's now about how it will sound on a cell phone with/without ear buds.
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rauliruegas
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Dear atmasphere: ""  This is absolute nonsense. The RIAA curve has nothing to do with compression.. """"

of course is not the type of digital compression and maybe you are ok with that RIAA curve but if the LP medium is so good why that RIAA curve?, all we know why that kuind of compression in the bass range that you accept it does not means that that severe bass range equalization to lower those frequencies is a compression to me.

That RIAA curve eq. always degrades the original signal but the analog medium has no alternative due to the severe limitation of the LP medium.

I'm ok when you try ( always ) to post that the LP analog experience is superior to the digital one when today it's clear it's not as 20 years ago. As I said digital technology improved " light years "  as never did the LP alternative.

I don't care if you accept it or not the digital alternative but I think that you have not any single " parameter " to always disregard the digital alternative, especially when I post about.

Stay calm, listen, listen, listen and learn as all try to do it each single audio day.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
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