Very few FBI's were sold. The FBI was an FPB 300 and a KCT in one chassis! Quite a few Vanguards were sold and at any given time many great pieces of Krell and or other top brands are listed. That said, Krell could have put line level outs.
Is there Really a difference between a Krell 400xi intergrated amp and the newer Vandgard?
I currently own a Krell 400xi intergrated amp. It has 200 watts a 750k toroidal, balanced inputs, etc. Its very similar to the current vanguard intergrated amp in terms of similar spec's. I would like to know if anyone upgraded and if it was worth it? Is the sound different does it go lower, deeper, more of an open sound stage or should I just consider another route to improve what I already have.
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I have owned several stacks of Krell gear dating back to 1994. This goes back to an original KSA-150, KSA-300S, a beautiful pair of KAS-2's, 450MCX's with KCT and Cipher. As far as integrated amps go, I have owned the 300i, 400xi, and FBI. I used a Vanguard for six weeks that belongs to a friend of mine. It is head and shoulders a much more refined product than the 300i and 400xi. It is definitely voiced differently from what the original Krell "house sound" once was. I know that herndonb indicated that the Vanguard "wallops them all". Perhaps is does wallop the 300i and the 400xi! Does it wallop the FBI? Absolutely not. I'm not sure what kind of speakers or other ancillary equipment was used, but the Vanguard is by no stretch of the imagination in line with the FBI. I've played both amps through Eggleston Works Andra III's, Martin Logan Summit X's, and Wilson Audio Duettes. As good as the Vanguard is, just how good it is depends upon what context you are using it! |
dave_b1,550 posts02-11-2016 8:12pmSdcampbell, I had the Hegel home and I found it hard and flat sounding. A bit cold as well! I've had 3 Krell amps, last a FPB600. Familiar with 300i that I find 2D and hard. I have a Hegel H30 and it's light years ahead of the Krells I had. All Hegel I've heard is far from hard and flat sounding especially compare to 300i. |
Krellman is right. I have been pretty much a Krell user most of my time with this hobby (although not having the illustrious models Krellman has used) and the current Krell gear is very differently voiced from the older Krell gear. The Vanguard is in this new vein - more musical and forgiving, less visceral. Most importantly, the traditional bass slam that Krell is known for is no longer there. In the place of that is a more textured bass. Highs are slightly rolled off (not such a bad thing with some recordings), PRAT is no longer as good and the sharp transients and leading edge is much diminished. I am referring to the older main Krell line (and not the KAV line which sounded lighter and leaner). The FBI would still have the older sound. It really depends on what you like. Just my 2 cents. |
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