First Hand Experience?


Hey all!

I am considering purchasing the Rotel RB-1582Mkii power amp. I'm hoping that I can get get some first hand experiences/insights from anyone who has either owned this amp or who has thought about buying it and decided against it for whatever reason and what amp they ended up buying instead.
On paper it has some interesting features/specs and enough power to drive most any speaker but there don't seem to be too many reviews of it on the Internet.
Also, if you have owned it, what pre-amp did you use with it? Tube or Solid State?

Thanks in advanced for your replies!
wcc10
Good points all.
My budget on the amp is $2,000.00 or less.
I thought of going with the pre first but I'm not sure what that would add to what I would hear out of the speakers. Thus my thought of amp first and Yamaha "pre-out" until I could go with a tube pre amp.
MECSH you mention Jolida; I was looking at their Fusion intergrate as well as their tube Pre amps & amps. I did read some reviews that the intergrate & seperate amp lacked some in the "umph" department. In other words, did not do all that well driving Hard to drive speakers.
My CD player is (again) a Yamaha CD-N500. Not sure what you mean buy "digital out." Honestly, this is a really good cd player with Burr-Brown 32-Bit/192kHz DAC. It sounds very good especially with FLAC file CDs. Wish it handeled DSD.
As for impedence, I've always been a fan of 4 ohms. But considering my limited budget I think I will get most for my money sticking to 8 ohm speakers.
As for inergrate, I'm already there with a 100 watt Yamaha Intergrate. Sure, there are better receivers on the market but going with seperates will allow me more advantage as far as tweaking in the future as my bank book allows.
Another priority for me is sound stage and separation of instruments. I get that to some degree with the Yamaha integrate with a good FLAC or DSD file. But not nearly to the point where I can picture the instruments in their respective locations. Some of this my be due to the speakers but I believe separate amp/pre amp will help this a lot. Thoughts anyone?
Aside from the speaker impedance you need to consider the input/output impedances of the pre an power amps
Understood. Is impedance matching more important with a tube pre & ss power amp combination?
I read a rule of thumb might be about a 10:1 to about a 100:1 ratio, power amp input impedance to preamp output impedance.
Again, does this hold true for both tube & solid state? Don't want to hurt the speakers!
Hi wcc10...
I went through a similar glide path in gear mixology over the past few years. I looked at the Rotel line and in listening to various Rotel gear I appreciated the fit/finish/sheer heft of the gear, but I was never sold on the sound. I’ve run through a range of gear at home, and I have to agree with the voices speaking up in favor of Parasound in your general price range. To me, it is a great bargain overall. Looks great, and sounds excellent — very quiet (black) with proper power (I am a PS Audio Powerplant fanboy, works great).

Are you familiar with the Parasound z-line of gear? It lends itself very well to a component upgrade path, and I swear this stuff is bang for the dollar. It loves every reasonable upgrade you throw at it in terms of power quality, ICs, speaker cables,... I have NOT (but now that I think of it, I will!) used my Parasound home office z-stack to drive my Avalon Acoustics speakers so I really can not tell you how well the amps hold up to outstanding and large speakers.

Sure the z-line is low on output watts, but your speakers will probably fit well. If there isn’t enough power then you can inexpensively add a second zAmp for each channel (it’s setup to enable that on the back). The z-line really sounds excellent at your price point — PLUS: you can easily recycle (into a second small system) this gear as you upgrade... I have to say, it sounds great with a proper phono stage and good TT setup. I have driven all manner of small to mid-sized speakers (Mourdant-Short, Energy, Martin Logan, ...) with it to great success. This gear is a scaled-down and minimalist-feature version of bigger Parasound gear. ...And, you can frequently get the amp or preamp on special deals online.

I have not seen the Parasound z-line on the Audiogon listings. But I would strongly suggest punching above your retail price by looking for either a good deal on some Parasound or other gear on Audiogon. Speaking of which, I recall paying a nice price (somewhere around $1400) for a Cronus Magnum integrated tube amp that resolves and images really nicely for that relatively low cost. It does NOT have a black background, however. But it’s an analogous situation with vinyl: If you are taken by the overall vinyl sound, you will overlook the surface noise issues. The Rogue is bang. ...But it’s not as clean as other much more expensive tube gear (I ended up with Ayon).