Subwoofer

Bo1972's assumption that audiogon posters somehow miss the boat on great sounding audio due to lacking his 6 years of sales experience, combined with his inability to respond to posts from far more sophisticated audiophiles (many exhibiting near zen-like patience with his drivel, unlike myself) pretty much says it all. Bo…your posts continue to make you seem utterly clueless…Bo…really…you may need professional help…I might know a therapist in the Netherlands I can recommend…Bo...

It is our crying Woolfy again. I guess you still use your "old' Rel 150 subwoofer.

 In audio the most convincing sound always will win. It is not 6 years, but 18 years of sales experience. The biggest difference compared to all my collegues is that I have done a lot a research in those 18 years of time. And still do. Most people who work in audio seldom do any research in audio.

You can put me down on record saying REL and MJ acoustics do very competent subs. The relevant point of cone break up was brought up. That can be one of paper's disadvantages if your like me and push your systems too hard at times. This is another reason multiple subs are a good idea, not only with paper. Not only will multiples make it easier to obtain fuller bass and a flatter response but you wont have to push two quite as hard to get closer to desired DB levels. There are usually compromises everywhere. As with EQ'ed sealed boxes and box ring. Yet another reason to have multiple subs in your set up. The more the merrier. I switched things around a little bit this morning and connected my two JBL subs, they can take a little more abuse. Come to think of it, those happen to have paper cones too. Coincidence, probably not ;).        

I don't think a decent subwoofer is ever too slow. Perhaps what people are hearing is a maladjustment (x-over or sub volume set too high) or simply improper sub placement.

I won't even run my desktop system without a sub because even though I paid 1k for those stand-mounts, pure, deep lows that I can feel (ever heard live music?) are not in their wheelhouse. 

I finally got my Rel T/5i sub set.up with my Sonus Faber Guarneri Evolution monitors. The sub is crossed over at a little below 40Hz.  Using my spl meter I verified that I am getting pretty flat response from 100Hz down to 20Hz!  I am completely satisfied with how my setup sounds with the sub.  I didn't realize how much low freq information I was missing.  My only complaint is waiting so long!   Now I wonder if adding another one would improve things even more?