Subwoofer

I don't think a decent subwoofer is ever too slow. Perhaps what people are hearing is a maladjustment (x-over or sub volume set too high) or simply improper sub placement.

I won't even run my desktop system without a sub because even though I paid 1k for those stand-mounts, pure, deep lows that I can feel (ever heard live music?) are not in their wheelhouse. 

I finally got my Rel T/5i sub set.up with my Sonus Faber Guarneri Evolution monitors. The sub is crossed over at a little below 40Hz.  Using my spl meter I verified that I am getting pretty flat response from 100Hz down to 20Hz!  I am completely satisfied with how my setup sounds with the sub.  I didn't realize how much low freq information I was missing.  My only complaint is waiting so long!   Now I wonder if adding another one would improve things even more?  

These settings we used 15 years ago with Rel subwoofers as well. Because you cannot use them a lot higher.

I can garantee you 100% that this is inferior compared to using a subwoofer till 120hz.

Rel you cannot use it this high, because I had clients with new Rel subwoofers who were not able to be set till 120hz

I would never recommand a subwoofer what can be set to max 80hz. When I compared a subwoofer what is able to be used till 120hz, they directly sold their Rel.

The rule in audio is; at the end each person will choose for the best endresult. That is why you need to show people the limitations of their subwoofer.

What do you want to hear......the truth or the thing you would like to hear......

In audio there are still a lot of people who want to hear what they want to hear. These I cannot help!

You would think Rel would of caught on after all that time. That or stop tricking the ears of all they're happy customer's ;) 

In the past you had less different other options. These days there are more options, but also better options like REL.

Shootouts give you the information that they are not the best anymore. In my world the best only counts. I don't care what the name is.

The best results always counts. The quality of subwoofers these days is a lot better based on better materials ( much faster response) and measurement systems.

10 years ago I never thought that we would have the level in speed and integration what we have today. And that the best subwoofers in speed even can be used till 120hz and higher.