B&W 805 D3


Does anybody here own the B&W 805 D3? I just happen to read about this new model although it was launched sometime last year. Apparently the long-surviving Kevlar driver had been replaced by the new Continuum driver in the all new 800-diamond series now in their 3rd generation. Is the new Continuum driver a huge departure in sound quality from the previous B&W models which are on the Kevlar?

Is there a significant difference going from the following iterations :-

Nautilus 805 => 805S => 805 Diamond => 805 D2 => 805 D3 (new Continuum driver)

Any thoughts would be appreciated.


ryder
I compared side to side 802d2 which I owned against 802d3.  Same system, same wires, same songs.

because I wonder the d2, I knew it intimately.  All the wrongs and weaknesses of the 802d2, I knew.

so when I compared it, I knew the first momemt... The 802d3 was everything I wanted in a bowers.  Denser images, better staging, better palpability, and more analog sounding for lack of a better term:. The hash from the Kevlar coloration was no longer apparent, the d3 was better.  

How is much better?  I thought 25% better.  My audiophile brother and my non audiophile dad agree.

i brought a focal owner to the demo later, he said it was a stunning difference.  I asked him if he thought it was 25% better, he said no... He felt it was more than 25%.  It was the best speaker he heard up to that point.

-as for me, I sold my 802d2 after that demo.  I'm buying the 802d3 this week after I sold my Rockport Avior.

i find it interesting when people don't hear the magnitude of difference I hear.  It is very apparent and easy to tell if you're a bowers owner.  I listen for staging first and foremost and I focus on getting that vocalist to be palpable and dense... Weight and realism.  The 802d2 by comparison sounds flat and hazy... For lack of a better term.

i would listen with an open mind and formulate your own opinion.  

Honestly to me, I'm tired of reading what others hear or don't hear... I heard it and 3 others did as well, including my dad who is not even an audiophile.

it is one of the best transducers in my opinion.  


Just as a quick aside, the d2 to me seem brighter.  Off axis the d2 might sound better on a quick casual listen because it is more engaging in that sense.  But sit in the sweet spot in the right room in the right triangulation and positioning of the speakers... And the d2 are not even close to the d3.

i listened to 802d2 vs 802d3.
i listened to 802d2 vs 803d3.

i have also heard those 800d2 maybe 20x in an effort to buy them... The 802d3 is a better transducer, no contest.

But all my opinion.

i ran my 802d2 on several amps, I wanted to make sure I was optimizing them.  I used Cary 211FE tube monos, Classe M600 monos, and Boulder 2060 stereo amp.
I heard both, same setups, same everything except the speakers.  I am not a B&W fan, but the d3 805s were amazing.  The slight nasal and closed in character of the d2 (to my ears) is completely gone in the d3.  

I think Joey V said they're 25 percent better.  To me, and my non B&W loving ears, it was the difference between a speaker I could appreciate but would never own, to a speaker I'd be proud to own.

Everything just sounds so much bigger!
Heard it again today...

Close your eyes and you're there.  Tried it with the SF Olympica 3 today... Didn't work.  Sounds great... But the 802d3 just recreates all the little ambient information and creates a believable event.

Something I could not completely do with the 802d2 or the 800d2.  

That last 25% of delta change, that's it.  I think the guy posting before got it right.  It differentiates a great speaker from a good one.

Putting my money where my mouth is.  Placing my 802d3 order this weekend.