Tonearm mount on the plinth or on Pillar ?


Folks,
I am looking to buy a custom built turntable from Torqueo Audio (http://www.torqueo-audio.it/). They have two models, one with a wide base plinth where the tonearm would be mounted on the plinth (as usual) and the second is a compact plinth where they provide a seperate tonearm pillar to mount the tonearm. According to them the separate tonearm pillar version sounds more transparent and quieter because of the isolation of the tonearm from the TT. My concern is whether seperating the tonearm from the plinth would result in a lesser coherence in sound ? Isnt sharing the same platform results in a more well-timed, coherent presentation ? Any opinions ?
pani
Theories are great.....
I know of tonearm designers who can convince you that Uni-pivots are theoretically superior to gimballed tonearms....
But hey....they can both work fine.
I know some turntable designers who can convince you that belt-drive high mass turntables are theoretically superior to direct-drive and idlers......
But hey...they can all work just fine.
I know some cartridge designers who can convince you that MC is theoretically superior to MM....
But hey...they can both work fine.
Yep....I just love theories 😎

Dear @lewm: """  my opinions on this issue are well known; no point repeating myself. Others can think differently.... """

are those opinions based or with foundation on first hand experiences in your own audio system through several tests with and with out same tonearm/cartridge?

If yes I would like to hear your confirmation about and trade-offs you experienced and if not maybe is time to have the stand alone tonearm tower to confirm or not your opinions, this could gives more value to those opinions. Don't you think?


Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
No thanks, Raul.
This is not to say you and Halcro are "wrong".  Really, really; I don't care.  I am sure that your system, and Henry's system too, are wonderful.  Both of your systems differ from mine in very many ways, other than turntable/tonearm linkage, and it is not incumbent upon me to try out all the variations in order to say that I prefer what I have.  Over 40 years, I've been there and done that.

The OP asked for opinions. I have stated my opinion and the theoretical why of it (and so has Atma-sphere in a more elegant treatise), and that's all I care to do on this subject. Like I also said, I fully approve of Halcro's current TT101 set-up, even though he may believe we are at odds.  (Your set-up may be just fine by me, too.  I haven't seen any photos, so I cannot really say.) Like you say, enjoy the music. I certainly am.
Chris, thanks for the update on your SP-10 Mk 2.  Your idea to mount your arm on a separate pillar and then bolt the pillar to the base (plinth), same as for the motor unit, is similar to the direction I've moved.  That is sort of a "middle ground" between a naked table and one that is directly connected. ;^)

My thinking is by not mounting the arm and motor unit to the same top layer of whatever material in the plinth but still have a fixed connection, any energy transfer between the two will need to travel a greater distance and (likely) through different materials, and thus be absorbed or at least diminished.  Now after multiple false starts I need to find someone local with the proper tools to build it for me.
I’ve seen many arm pods, but this one ( TH-100) is the most exotic solution along with this heavy TM-10 metal plinth by JoJo Toho Machine (i know nothing about this company).

It’s called Toho Player base System for Technics SP-10mk2, also for Victor and Denon turntables.

This design looks as solid as Neumann cutting machine imho.

I wish i could get time machine to buy this Toho Base for my SP10
There is one for Halcro’s Victor table too (more elegant than naked victor imho)

How do you like it ?